I just saw a commercial for the new Star Wars game where Starkiller vaporized an entire platoon of stormtroopers with a single energy blast or something.

What are the effective limits on the Force and who is its most powerful user within both the accepted canon and Legends?

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    Could you edit to make your actual question match the title better? – user1320 May 23 '11 at 18:46
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    I would suggest an edit on the title, but the answer addresses it and ignores the body – Michael Mrozek May 23 '11 at 20:06
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    I haven't read much in the expanded universe but really, no Kyp Durron love? – Ashterothi Jul 17 '12 at 17:04
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    The answer is obviously Skippy, the Jedi droid. – Valorum Apr 11 '16 at 19:57
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    @Richard The Clone Wars is still canon, so I would have to say that JMFB's answer is correct. – Adamant Apr 11 '16 at 20:08

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G-canon answer:

If you go by canon's theory that midichlorian counts are The Thing:

  • Anakin Skywalker (over 20,000 per cell; source: Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace)

  • Luke Skywalker (source: "Lucas has said in interviews that Luke Skywalker had the same total midi-chlorian count that Anakin did at birth")

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    @Sinan - training. – DVK-on-Ahch-To May 23 '11 at 18:10
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    @DVK so it could be argued that although Yoda (or Palpatine) has less midichlorian count he has more training (and experience) so they are more powerful. – Sinan May 23 '11 at 18:22
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    @DVK: Are you sure? starwars.wikia.com/wiki/… – El'endia Starman May 24 '11 at 1:14
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    MIDICHLORIANS? I've never heard of any midichlorians! (lalalalalalalalalalala shutup!) – Andres F. Feb 19 '12 at 3:05
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    I don't think this answers the question, at all. It has good information for two Force users, but no comparison. The max in a sample size of 1 is also the min. – Matt Jan 21 '14 at 15:06

The Sith Emperor. I just read Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan, and I have to say he is the most powerful. Before the age of 10, he killed his mother and foster-father and by 10 took over his planet and forced his biological father to flee.

At 13, he gained the attention of Marka Ragnos and quickly became a Sith Lord. He created the Sith Empire, destroyed 9 members of the sith council at once. He bent Revan and Malak to the dark side, made himself immortal, and possibly unleashed the most perverse force technique to date- completely "ate" his homeworld of Nathema, turning it into a place completely devoid of the Force.

Yeah, he's number 1.

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    Before 10 he killed both parent, and by 10 he forced his father to flee? He must be strong if he made a dead man run. – Jeff Nov 18 '11 at 22:00
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    Oops. His biological father was the the sith lord Dammath. He killed his foster father as he was born out of wedlock. – Max Nocerino Nov 18 '11 at 22:01
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    @Iterator Darth Lucas himself? – AncientSwordRage Jan 5 '12 at 11:19
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    @Pureferret - Iterator? I KNEW that Java was of the Dark Side!!! – DVK-on-Ahch-To Jan 21 '14 at 18:19
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    None of that is canon tho'. You could say Jar Jar with just as much validity. – Gaius Aug 17 '15 at 11:26


"The Ones" were the most powerful force wielders ever.
"The Father" is clearly the most powerful in the force.

"The Father" kept "The Son" and "The Daughter" at bay, and made sure there was balance in the force.

"The Father" also made sure the that Abeloth didn't destroy or ruin the universe.

Entire religions were spawned after "The Ones."

They've also been around the longest going back to 1,000,000 BBY.

In the Star Wars Universe nobody was more powerful in the force than "The Father" as he kept things in order for all that time and had a huge responsibility, without him things would have fell apart.

Since you included "force entity" in your question, this is a clear cut answer.

The Clone Wars "Overlords":

The Father: You cannot imagine what pain it is to have such love for your children and realize that they could tear the very fabric of our universe.

AS: I don't understand.

The Father: It is only here that I can control them A family in balance. The light and the dark. Day with night. Destruction replaced by creation.

AS: Then why reveal yourselves to us? There are some who would like to exploit our power. The sith are but one.

The Father: Too much dark or light would be the undoing of life as you understand it.

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So the guy keeping "life as you understand it" together and holding the force in the balance for over a million years is definitely the most powerful force wielder ever.

Somebody else put the same answer but wasn't definitive, and didn't include quotes or reasons to prove it. I can include more quotes, but clearly The Father is the most powerful force wielder. After him come The Son, The Daughter, and Abeloth. These beings are stronger in the force than multiple Jedi or Sith combined.

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    Also note the Father's comment that "My children and I can manipulate the Force like no other, therefore, it was necessary to withdraw from the temporal world and live here as anchorites." – Hypnosifl Apr 10 '16 at 5:24
  • This is the right answer. – Adamant Apr 11 '16 at 20:07
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    In recognition that the latest changes to the canon haven't invalidated this answer I've awarded a bounty. The Father is quite definitively the most powerful user of the Force in both the main canon and the EU – Valorum Apr 18 '16 at 15:38

The Father from the Clone Wars series is a hot candidate. It is not entirely clear wether Anakin is stronger in raw power but Father and his offspring sure do things I am rather sure are unique.

In general, the question may be ill-posed. There are multiple examples of Jedi being stronger than others in some areas but weaker in others. A prominent example would be Corran Horn who is useless at telekinesis but has the rare talent to absorb raw energy.

  • Not just from the clone wars....also from the new Jedi order – DarthRubik May 22 '16 at 0:46

TL;DR: In current Disney canon, the strongest single Force user would be Luke Skywalker. Across all canon levels, the strongest single user would likely be Abeloth.

It should first be noted that Force abilities & power fluctuate depending on the medium. In the comics & video games, we have seen displays of power that absolutely blow away anything we've seen in the films or Clone Wars series. That said, I'll break the answer up into two sections - the current (Disney) canon level, and the Legends/Everything level.

Disney Canon

As of August 2015 (we still haven't seen the new trilogy yet), the single most powerful Force user in existence is Luke Skywalker. Luke possesses all of the raw talent & power that his father Anakin did, and Anakin was believed by Mortis to be the most powerful user of the Force to ever exist.

After becoming Darth Vader, Anakin found his abilities "capped" by his alterations. Luke, however, is not as limited by a loss of body mass like his father was, and therefore should be capable of reaching nearly his maximum potential - a potential that would rival or exceed anything we saw from Anakin. Whether or not we will see this potential on-screen remains to be seen, but is quite possible as an older Luke appears in the new trilogy coming up.

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Other contenders would be:

  • Mortis (The Father); originally a mortal man, he became the avatar of The Balance between the light & dark sides of The Force.
  • The Son; mortal who became the avatar of the Dark Side.
  • The Daughter; mortal who became the avatar of the Light Side.

Legends Canon

If we look at the entire SW universe - the Legends continuity, games, everything - then we find a plethora of candidates. The most likely contender, however, would be Abeloth. Known as The Mother, Abeloth's power seems to exceed that of even Mortis since it took both Mortis AND his children to imprison her. Even in a very weakened state, she faced off against numerous Jedi and Sith (often several at a time) yet consistently held her own, and the Force itself seems to be at her beck & call. She also had the ability to manipulate and outright control others, as well as cast illusions across an entire planet (not to mention hiding her rather gruesome appearance).

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  • Naga Sadow; used the Force to destroy the entire Denarii System. May also be the first known user of Battle Meditation.
  • Darth Nihilus; learned to "feed" off the Force energy of entire planets.
  • The Sith Emperor; used the Force to extend his own life by centuries.
  • Emperor Palpatine; cheated death numerous times by changing bodies, and also used battle meditation extensively across the entire Empire.
  • Galen Marek; possessed a natural affinity for the Force and disarmed Darth Vader at the age of 6. Also used the Force to crash an Imperial Star Destroyer from orbit.
  • Dorsk 81; focused the energy of several Jedi & telekinetically "pushed" an entire fleet of Imperial vessels out of the Yavin system. Died from the effort, however.
  • "Luke, however, is not limited by a loss of body mass like his father was, and therefore should be capable of reaching his maximum potential" -- not quite maximum, probably. He did lose a hand himself. – Raphael Mar 7 '16 at 9:38
  • "Luke possesses all of the raw talent & power that his father Anakin did" -- where in Disney canon has this been stated? Also, you mention Mortis, but why aren't you counting the Father on Mortis as a Force-user more powerful than Anakin? Anakin can't hold back lightsabers the way the Father could... – Hypnosifl Apr 10 '16 at 5:19
  • @Hypnosifl - actually, that's something that Lucas himself has confirmed. Luke is basically Anakin 2.0 in Lucas' view. And the Father believed Anakin to be potentially his equal power-wise. Presumably Father would have trained Anakin further if he had accepted the proposal to replace him. – Omegacron Apr 14 '16 at 11:53
  • Do we know if Anakin was (either potentially or actually) more powerful than The Father? I believe the one time Anakin attempted to challenge The Father, The Father won rather easily. – Ellesedil Apr 15 '16 at 23:05
  • @Ellesedil - yes, Father was more concerned with Anakin's potential than his current level of power. Father seemed to believe that Anakin would be able to replace him, so presumably that would involve training or a transfer of ability of some kind. – Omegacron Apr 19 '16 at 14:10

Abeloth known as the bringer of chaos and an entity of the force. It required the combined powers of 3 Celestial beings and an ancient race of builders to imprison her and she has the power to exist in multiple forms on multiple planets simultaneously. She is by far the most powerful being that exists in the EU.

The Celestials are probably number 2.

Zenoma Sekot is probably number 3. An entire planet with the power to use the force.


Darth Nihilus

I believe he is the strongest user of the force. His power and hatred is so strong he corrupts himself with his own force, sucking it out of others and feeding constantly on the energy around him. His body completely became a pit of pure dark energy and force that he had to seal his soul in his robes and mask. Its even told that he devoured an entire force enriched planet to nothing, Taking all its life energy and force to feed himself. The more force he fed off of and used, the more his hunger grew for more. He goal was to take the force out of everything in the galaxy and supposedly bring "balance". Pretty sick right? :D

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    @Matematicos sorry really new to this website. i tried putting the link in the "Darth Nihilus" part up top but i guess it didn't work :c – Master Skorh Nov 5 '13 at 14:03
  • @phantom42 thanks for editing it for me! – Master Skorh Nov 5 '13 at 14:50

Supposedly Galen Marek. Not the clone, the one one died saving the rebel leaders. when he was 6 he can already force-pull the saber outta Vader's hand, and he didn't even know about force yet. And during the fight with Shaak-ti he freakin tased the giant pit of tantecle thingy half dead, and he was only 16 or something. Then he stopped a freakin star-destroyer on its path after he defeated a staff-guard and a whole station full of troopers, and those staff-guards are either sith lord or jedi master used-to-be or Revan himself(it was in the novel). He even defeats Darth Vader, and the emperor. If he went ahead and killed the emperor, then he won't be dead because of the emperor's stealth-attack-with-critical-damage. Even so, he still took the full blast of emperor's lighting for 'bout half a minute, and detonating the force, blowing one-fifth of the death star's surface to trash. On the wookiepedia, Luke is said to be the overall most powerful force-user, but also that Galen would took his place if he did not die at the age of 18.


Even though Darth Vader apparently had a huge midichlorian count, he didn't wield the Force as skilfully as Palpatine (a.k.a the Emperor) who stayed in the shadows and ripped apart the galaxy with his Machiavellian manipulations and treason. He built a vast army of cloned stormtroopers and converted the Republic into the evil Empire in a similar way to Hitler, eventually resulting in genocide and the destruction of worlds. It seems likely all the time he was doing this he was using his Force powers to persuade, manipulate and disappear those who stood in his way. That is the true power of the Dark Side. By comparison what did Darth Vader actually achieve with his powers? Sure he stopped a blaster bolt with his hand. Choked a few guys.

  • So what's the actual answer here? Are you saying Palpatine was the most powerful Force user? – Rand al'Thor Apr 15 '16 at 23:56
  • If you're saying the answer is Palpatine, then please make this clearer. This has already been flagged once as "not an answer" because it's not clear how it answers the question of who is the most powerful Force user. (PS. Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.) – Rand al'Thor Apr 22 '16 at 17:48
  • I am saying that it's Palpatine. – Daniel B Apr 26 '16 at 15:20
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    @DanielB You need to be nice. Consider this your first and last warning. – Null Apr 26 '16 at 18:07
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    @DanielB Rand commented on your post in response to a "not an answer" flag from another user and was attempting to help you improve it. Your answer is clear that you consider Palpatine to be more powerful than Vader, but you don't actually make a case that Palpatine is stronger than every other Force user. – Null Apr 27 '16 at 15:00

First it is stated that the father intervened when Abeloth forced his children to obey, and stranded Abeloth on the planet which means he probably overpowered her. And since Abeloth is stated to be x12 Luke's power who is the strongest non-celestial Force user that puts the father at number one during his prime, keep in mind that The Clone Wars episode featured the last days of his life where he was weak.

Revan and three other Jedi barley held their own against Vitiate, aka the Emperor for more than 10 seconds so Revan is strong but not that strong. Vitiate did not die of one Jedi Knight it was one of his bodies who did, he lived for thousands of years and during this time drained at least two planets completely from life and this should put him somewhere at place six after the celestials, Abeloth, Luke and Sidious.

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    Where is Abeloth stated to be twelve times Luke's power? More generally speaking, some citations for this would be nice. – Adamant Aug 19 '16 at 0:25

1: Anakin
2: Luke
3: Darth Sideous
4: Darth plagueis
5: Yoda
6: Galen Marek
7: Obi Wan
8: Darth Revan
9: Mace Windu
10: Darth Maul

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    Do you have any evidence to back this up? – alexwlchan Mar 5 '16 at 8:54
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    Please edit your supporting evidence into your answer – AncientSwordRage Mar 5 '16 at 10:15


He won a entire against the MANDOLORIANS!! Which are known as Jedi killers and make up as the second most powerful in the GALAXY! He survived 2000 years in stasis would have killed the emperor and required a group of ten Jedi MASTERS to stun him and his spirit had to kill him I mean forget about the emperor he got killed by ONE Jedi Knight I mean really??

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