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What are Grey Knights/Grey Jedi exactly?

From what I understand they are basically Force users who choose a mix between Sith and Jedi teachings without being either, Using both to reach a balance. Am I correct?

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Wookiepedia covers this in detail here:

The term Gray Jedi, or Gray, had two meanings.

  • First, it was used by Jedi and Sith to describe Force-users who walked the line between the light and dark sides of the Force without surrendering to the dark side, and

  • second, it described Jedi who distanced themselves from the Jedi High Council and operated outside the strictures of the Jedi Code. However, those who were considered to be true Gray Jedi met both qualifications and did not belong to any particular Force tradition. One example was Jolee Bindo, a former Jedi Padawan and self-proclaimed Gray Jedi of the Old Republic.

Although the term did not directly refer to those who were capable of using both light and dark side Force abilities, all Gray Jedi could do so.

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    Technically all jedi are capable of using light and dark side Force abilities. They just choose not to do so. – Sir Ksilem Aug 14 '13 at 9:36
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    Doesn't Mace Windu's lightsaber combat style rely on using emotion to enhance strength? Sounds like drawing on the dark side of the Force to me. Would that make him Gray? – Zan Lynx Oct 7 '13 at 7:18
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    @ZanLynx - Vaapad isn't gray as far as I can tell. But it's easy for the practitioner to turn Dark - see Shatterpoint and ROTS novelizations for the details. – DVK-on-Ahch-To Oct 7 '13 at 20:37
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    Vaapad is skirting the dark side, which is why only those with the greatest force control can use it. Mace Windu and Yoda were the only two known that could utilize that power and not go over to the dark side. Dooku probably could have as well, but since he did totally go to the dark side it would then be irrelevant. It took the highest level of force control to be able to use Vaapad and not get pulled into it, do only Jedi Masters of the highest skill would ever incorporate it into their fighting. Yoda was naturally so powerful he didn't need to use it at all. – JediWitness Nov 30 '13 at 18:55
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It's a term that came out of the old EU to (as the name suggests) apply to those who walked a path closer to the dark side than orthodox Jedi. The argument being that the light side path was as dogmatic and absolutist as the dark path of the Sith and that in the real world, everything is a shade of grey. Kind of a "rough around the edges" maverick Jedi that plays by their own rules. A ronin to the Jedi's samurai.

Though I think several EU characters were later retconed as such, IIRC the first real example of this was Jolee Bindo. A companion character in Bioware's KoTOR, he was a former padawan who had become disenchanted with the Order and spent the last twenty something years in self imposed exile. His main function in this game (that BTW emphasised character choices in a big way) seemed to be to offer the player an alternate perspective of the Jedi that was critical without being diametrically opposed like the Sith.

It should be noted that the concept of "Grey Jedi" did not come from George Lucas and to date is not something being retained in canon (See also:"Dark Jedi".) As Lucasfilm Story Group member Pablo Hidalgo recently said: -

I don't get the 'gray Jedi' thing. You're either a Jedi or you're not. It's like being a 'gray vegetarian' who eats meat.

Further more: -

Biggest gripe about the Gray Jedi trope. The dark side comes at a cost. That cost has to be more than "It makes me a total bad-ass." Is it possible to tell that story well? Sure. Does it happen? Not often.

It's a subject that's come back into fandom quite often of late, mostly it seems due to the popularity of Ahsoka Tano. Another former Padawan who became disenchanted with the council and left the Order. She's still a Force sensitive, selflessly dedicated to the light side and even carries a pair of lightsabers. Though as she says in her own words: -

"I am no Jedi!"

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Gray Jedi - Force practitioners who do not use light or dark side of the Force. Could mean any Force user not affiliated with the Sith and at the same time not under the Jedi Council rule. Examples of such : Jolee Bindo, Master Qui-Gon, Voss Mystics etc.

However the term Gray Knights falls to a totally different universe as far as I know.

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The Gray Jedi where Jedi that did not believe the Sith or the Jedi way. Gray Jedi can use both forces.

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    Hello, welcome to the SF & Fantasy Stack and thank you for your answer. Do you think you can add some references to it? – SQB Jan 26 '17 at 19:22
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There are a few different definitions for the term Gray Jedi that are used in Legends. Sometimes they overlap, sometimes they are contradictory (and this probably says more about the people who are using the term than the people they describe)

Jedi no longer associated with the Jedi Order

Gray Jedi are those who, though having completed the teachings of the Jedi, operate independently and outside of the Jedi Council. They are typically seen as misguided, though they have not necessarily succumbed to the dark side.

–Gray Jedi Robe item description, Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords

One self-proclaimed Gray Jedi from the Old Republic era is Jolee Bindo. During the Great Sith War, he sided with Exar Kun and fell to the dark side. When he later regretted his actions, the Jedi Council chose not to punish him and instead wanted to promote him to Jedi Knight. Jolee no longer trusted the Council's wisdom and left them.

Well, I assure you, I see more grey than dark or light. I'm just a stubborn old man, tired of the foolishness of others.

–Jolee Bindo, Knights of the Old Republic

Another example in the post-Clone Wars era would be of the Teepo Paladins who believed that blasters should be used alongside of lightsabers in combat and were censured by the Jedi Council. I suspect that the reason was because this made them seem more militant than the Jedi Order usually wanted to present themselves.

Jedi who were still part of the Jedi Order, but rarely listened to the Council's gudiance

"The so-called gray Jedi have been with us since the beginning. Although they do not break with the Jedi orthodoxy concerning the dark side, they bristle when asked to take orders from the Council. Gray Jedi make compromises, cut corners, and hide their actions from scrutiny, all under the assumption that their experience makes them authorities on policy. They are mavericks who are difficult to control, but can be valued members of the Order after they have been persuaded to follow the established hierarchy."

–Restelly Quist, The Jedi Path: A Manual for Students of the Force

Some members associated with the Jedi Order were viewed as gray Jedi, due to their headstrong nature and rebelliousness from the orders of the Jedi Council. Some considered Qui-Gon Jinn to be a gray Jedi, despite him being an active part of the Order until his death.

[Qui-Gon] Jinn always does things his own way, always sure he is right, always incredulous if we do not see it his way. Some think he is a gray Jedi.

–Tyvokka, Star Wars 36: The Stark Hyperspace War, Part 1

This rebelliousness also kept him from becoming a member of the Jedi Council.

"If you would just follow the Code, you would be on the Council. They will not go along with you this time."

"You still have much to learn, my young apprentice."

–Obi-Wan Kenobi and Qui-Gon Jinn, Episode I: The Phantom Menace

Alternative groups from the Jedi, especially those who also studied the dark side of the Force

"We are not evil."

"No, the Jensaarai are not, nor are they wholly good."

–The Saarai-kaar and Luke Skywalker, I, Jedi

There were a number of alternative Force groups that were not part of the Jedi, but weren't part of the Sith either. Several that were referred to as "gray" by the Jedi Order include:

  • Voss Mystics: An Old Republic species with their own understanding of the Force, who were neither interested in the Jedi nor Sith but had teachings similar to both.
  • Jensaarai: An off-shoot created by a fallen Jedi during the Clone Wars, which taught a blend of Jedi and Sith teachings.
  • Imperial Knights: A Legacy-era group who rejected the dark side, but were not fully following the light side either and tended to take a more pragmatic approach to how the Force should be used.

Those who try to walk a narrow path between the light side and the dark side of the Force

I have never met anyone like you, Cade Skywalker. You walk so close to the dark side and yet... You do not desire, even in some small way, the temptation of the power that the Muur Talisman can give you.

–Celeste Morne, Legacy 31: Vector, Part 12

Some Force users such as Cade Skywalker, tried to dabble in both the light side and the dark side of the Force, without embracing either. This was described in sources such as the Jedi Academy Training Manual.

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