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What is Varys' endgame for the realm according to the show?

closed as primarily opinion-based by Beofett, System Down, Monty129, Stan, Ward Aug 16 '13 at 4:43

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  • @Beofett Obviously, but what do your deductions (Game Theory) suggest to you what the endgame may be? – Mariovingian Aug 15 '13 at 16:44
  • @Beofett I appreciate the fencesitting, but ardentsonata has tangible proof. – Mariovingian Aug 15 '13 at 17:40
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    We are still two books away from the series' end, and we have yet to get a glimpse into Varys's head (via POV chapter ideally), so I think answering this question will be pure speculation. See my comment on ardentsonata's answer. VTC. – System Down Aug 15 '13 at 18:45
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    I think it is interesting to note the similarities between Egg, Bloodraven, Shiera Seastar and Varys. – TLP Aug 16 '13 at 10:58
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    @Mariovingian I'm not sure I agree. The speculation you propose IS highly interesting, but it's just that: speculation. It's also not based on established canon (is "The Philosophy of Game of Thrones" canon?). At this stage we simply do not know what Varys' endgame is. We simply cannot know. Maybe he is a Targaryen supporter. Maybe he is an alien supporting a hive mind. Only GRRM knows for certain, and he hasn't told us yet. (I'm willing to agree it's likely he is a Targaryen supporter after all). – Andres F. Aug 16 '13 at 23:19
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There are definitely spoilers if you haven't read the books yet, but to Varys:

The good of the realm is putting a Targaryen back on the throne. This is evidenced by him killing Kevan Lannister and Grand Maester Pycelle while saying that he was grooming Aegon Targaryen for the throne.

Thus all his plans revolve around this.

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    But is this indeed his ultimate goal? Or is it just another means to an end? – System Down Aug 15 '13 at 18:44
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    @SystemDown I don't necessarily know if it is his ultimate goal per say. But based on the wording of OP's question, Varys does specifically say it is for the good of the realm for spoiler deaths and spoiler plan to happen. – ardent Aug 15 '13 at 18:55
  • @SystemDown You state "...another means to an end?" Based on what I wrote earlier about the book "The Philosophy of Game of Thrones" it states (in the chapter entitled 'Game Theory in Game of Thrones') that if one extrapolates the various "means/games" then we can graduate from opinions and speculations to hypotheses! – Mariovingian Aug 16 '13 at 11:07
  • I don't think the character you mentioned for grooming is on the show (or not the one you actually meant). – Skooba Oct 25 '17 at 13:08

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