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Logan doesn't remember much of his past in X-Men I, II, or III. After which there are no telepathic mutants (that he might have kept in touch with) who could have helped him remember.

So why in The Wolverine does he remember so much about the atomic bomb? He shouldn't even remember the bomb or the guy he saved.

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    "remember much of his past" - that's the key phrase. He does remember certain things. Other things come as fragmented memories. He also worked with Xavier to attempt to unlock/restore some of his memories before Xavier's death. Also, the viewer is shown Logan's past, but it's never really spelled out exactly how much he remembers specifically prior to the movie or how much is triggered by things like returning to the location of the prison camp. – phantom42 Aug 30 '13 at 15:37
  • He recognizes the exact hole he got in to save that guy, he remembers the sword, which he saw for about a minute. And everithing seems to mean a lot to him, someone with fragmented memories shouldn't feel that much about those events. – ia.solano Aug 30 '13 at 15:46
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    Yes, he remembers them - but how much of those memories are things he suddenly remembers now versus five minutes ago? Even in real life, people often don't actively remember things until they see/hear/smell something specific that reminds them. – phantom42 Aug 30 '13 at 15:48
  • @phantom42 He saved Yashida, but he had saved a lot of people which he doesn't remember at all. So why would he remember those events specially well? – ia.solano Aug 30 '13 at 15:51
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    @ia.solano: “someone with fragmented memories shouldn't feel that much about those events“— is this based on experience you have with real-life patients who have memory loss? – Paul D. Waite Jan 17 '14 at 11:25
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Why shouldn't he? His brain, if we were to hazard a guess, is as capable as any other human and given his regenerative capabilities, his memories should be perhaps a bit more durable than most humans.

  • We are lead to believe his mutant power will allow him to repair any damage done to his body, this would include the very difficult to replace brain cells, which once damaged in normal humans, rarely or very slowly recover.

  • For Logan, it should be far easier. Logan should lose memories only if his mind is tampered with or he suffers catastrophic injury, and even then traces of his memory should still be available even if they are no more than dreams to him.

The brain is a fantastic organ

The human brain is one of the most studied and least understood organ in the human body. It is the seat of consciousness, the director of human volition, the palace of memory and believed to be the ultimate arbiter in what makes us what we are as a species. The process by which memory is enacted in the human creature is still one not completely understood.

Memory comes in a variety of types as well, sensory, short-term and long-term memories. Each is stored differently and can affect the others over time, weaving connections between all three. Each type of memory has several processes where memory is encoded, stored and later accessed. Wikipedia: Memory

  • Part of the process that is memory is based in a physical construction of dendrites, the connections between brain cells by which all activity in the brain is based upon.

  • But there are also neurochemical interactions taking place, serotonin, oxytocin and other such neurotransmitters which are believed to make the effective creation and activation of memory possible.

  • In recent years, scientists have begun to realize the brain is not just capable of memory in specific locations of the brain but that memory is a whole brain event, spreading memory across vast neural connections to entirely different regions of the brain.

  • It is possible that memory can be related to a variety of sensory conditions including sounds, smells, and tastes. Memories can be keyed to a particular event, trauma, or even the smell of a peach cobbler on a summer day on your grandmother's farm.

Wolverine's mind is an aspect of his brain and his mutation.

There could be any number of mitigating circumstances that could affect his memory including:

  • His age - If there was any single element I think that would affect his memory I would suggest his age is first and foremost. Since he is well over a hundred, we have no idea how memory is layered in his brain. It may be his earliest memories could be his least vivid or his most. Considering his traumas suffered at the hands of his father, it is possible those memories may drive his behavior even though he no longer remembers them specifically.

  • Physical trauma - Considering his lifestyle of physical stresses, combat and profound injury possible in his line of work, it is fortunate Wolverine's body regenerates from tissue damage. What we don't know is how complete the regeneration is. Do specific dendrites return to their previous configurations in his brain and if so, will their memories be retained?

    • Col. Stryker (from the movies) didn't think so, hence the reason he made adamantium bullets in order to scramble Logan's brain. Logan did appear to lose his short term memory once he had regenerated. Even then, he did seem to recognize the woman who used her powers to affect his memories at Three Mile Island.

    • On the other hand, Charles Xavier seem to think it was possible for those memories to be retained even if Logan couldn't specifically remember them without telepathic help.

  • Potent events - In the case of potent events like Hiroshima, it is possible for Logan to have memories of the event because it was so catastrophic as to be almost unbelieveable (and thus potentially unforgettable). We have survivors of the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki who are very old now and can still remember in vivid detail what happened that day and every day after that.

  • Other mutations acting on Logan's mind - Stryker did have Logan teamed up with a mutant whose power was a touch-based hypnosis (In the first Wolverine movie) but unless she tampered with those specific memories, it is possible those memories remained available but obscured through the nature of Logan's vast experiences.

    • Since Logan's brain is capable of putting itself back together again even after immense trauma, it is theoretically possible for Logan to remember things UNLESS they are specifically forced out of his mind by a more powerful or subtle mutation. This is what Charles Xavier did to help Logan remember his past even if Logan himself had repressed those memories or they had been lost to layering or age.
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    It was specifically stated in "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" that while his brain cells would grow back, his memories never would. And this is true. Xavier didn't know his memories were lost due to physical trauma. However, after that, you're correct in that memories may be stored throughout the brain in complex ways. – Blazemonger Jan 17 '14 at 15:13
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The Wolverine was considered a one off, so the memories from Stryker he lost didn't happen. Regardless, it was shown in the comics with Sabretooth that massive brain trauma can temporarily take away memories but it's not permanent.

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    “The Wolverine was considered a one off, so the memories from Stryker he lost didn't happen.” — Are you saying the events alluded to in X-Men 2 or X-Men Origins: Wolverine are considered non-canon for the purposes of The Wolverine? Have you got a source for that? – Paul D. Waite Jan 17 '14 at 11:26
  • @Niall C I agree and that is because in comics a new writer exercises his leeway to alter the charactwers and the world they inhabit. Movie goers are only recently seeing sequels that explicitely show them alternate stories or universes. Star Trek and Man of Steel are such and just wait for the next Batman, maybe. The new Jack Ryan installment is the latest example. Can you say re-boot? – Ihor Sypko Jan 17 '14 at 18:34

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