How did Stark manage to create a new element after Jarvis said it was impossible to synthesise the atom? Or did I miss something?

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    Movie nonsense. Artistic license, etc... – geoffc Nov 29 '13 at 0:23
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    Didn't he have a snarky reply to Jarvis after that, as he got to work on it? – Izkata Nov 29 '13 at 0:27
  • I don't see why it takes movie nonsense or artistic license for Jarvis to be wrong. – Lèse majesté Nov 29 '13 at 11:08

JARVIS was using its existing knowledge & analysis on Vibranium structure given by Tony's father. And then, human brain came in. Tony Stark synthesized Vibranium using his table-top particle accelerator (not sure it was portable LHC, but it was impressive).

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    Note that we regularly synthesize transuranic elements with particle accelerators, so the idea isn't without merit. What made it silly was the scale and the hand-hacked nature of it. And that Tony wasn't being cooked while the thing was running. – John Bode Nov 29 '13 at 15:46
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    This is how the movie explains it. In reality he could have created a new element this way, but, creating a new atom on a Particle Accelerator only produces a few unstable atoms that tend to disapear (revert back to regular-known elements or shatter into subatomic crap) after a few seconds. The movie implies that he somehow managed to transmute an element to another using the particle beam. – Chepech Nov 29 '13 at 20:15
  • So using a particle accelerator to collide particles to create new ones is different to testing the results made from multiple permutations and combinations of existing ones? (which is what Jarvis calculated) – Reanimation Dec 15 '13 at 0:15
  • @Reanimation JARVIS used Earth based knowledge of particle physics which is far from perfect (you can't really calculate anything for probability-driven quantum world & that's why we need LHC experiments) to calculate an alien element. – Wakanda Forever Dec 15 '13 at 0:52
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    @SachinShekhar: We can calculate new elements perfectly well. Indeed perfectly easily since it's simple addition: add one to the highest atomic number. We need particle accelerators to make the element EXIST - hence confirming our calculations. Without things like the LHC, all those calculations are just a bunch of chalk marks on the blackboard (or ink on paper, or bits in memory). The search for the Higgs Boson for example was a "search" - meaning trying to find something we think we know. Not actually discovering an unknown. – slebetman Nov 10 '14 at 2:23

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