When Denethor leapt, flaming, from the top of that castle, did he kill any orcs or set any of their war machines ablaze when he landed? I really hope he did, it would have been a good redemption for him.

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    Please note this is the movie only. In the book, he was burned in the Houses of the Dead and did not leap from anywhere. Commented Dec 5, 2013 at 10:34

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Unfortunately, it doesn't seem terribly likely - the rock outcrop he jumps from doesn't extend past the city's outer wall, and even at a full run, he wouldn't have travelled too far from the base of the outcrop.

More than likely, he would have landed amongst the soldiers fighting to defend the first gate - and would have likely further decreased their morale at a crucial moment (though, they probably would not have realised it was Denethor, having a flaming body splatter in your midst wouldn't be cheerful).

Model of Minas Tirith

  • That is a horrible realization.
    – Gelfamat
    Commented Dec 5, 2013 at 8:55
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    For even more horrible, read the book - there's no redemption whatsoever, and something involving a Palatir (that I don't want to spoil on you so I'm not going to say any more).
    – user8719
    Commented Dec 5, 2013 at 13:14
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    Actually at the time of Denethor's fall the main gate had been captured and Gandalf had fallen back to another position.
    – Oldcat
    Commented Nov 19, 2014 at 20:47

Well it didn't really happen, so no. Just PJ and his revising for effect on the audience....

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    You mean "really" like the bit in the books really happened? Commented Sep 14, 2014 at 23:18

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