So, a Guild Navigator shows up at the Emperor's house at the start of the movie and tells him to kill Paul Atreides.

Paul becomes the god Muad'dib at the end of the movie and vanquishes the Emperor, but the Guild Navigators are still the ones in charge of folding space, aren't they?

What is their relationship with Muad'dib at the point we get to at the end of the movie? I'd have thought that if the Guild Navigators still want Paul dead, they have many ways to make his life difficult.

I'm guessing this is dealt with in the books (assuming the movie is more or less canon with the books).

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    "assuming the movie is more or less canon" .... I can tell from that you have never read any of the books. I strongly recommend reading the first one at least .... and you will see the movie deviated from 'canon' quite a bit. Mar 12, 2014 at 23:59
  • The SciFi channel's production was much more faithful to the book, but without the lush verité styling of the Lynch production, initially developed by Jodorowsky and H.R. Giger. Mar 13, 2014 at 5:31

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The Guild Navigators are terrified of Paul. He possesses the ability to destroy the only supply of Spice in the known galaxy and due to their dependence on it, they're utterly unwilling to go against him.

"The power to destroy a thing is the absolute control over it. You've agreed I have that power. We are not here to discuss or to negotiate or to compromise. You will obey my orders or suffer the immediate consequences!"

In the subsequent books, his total dominance of the Spacing Guild leads him to one military victory after another since his troops now have total freedom of movement in space (at zero cost) whereas his enemies are now confined to their own planets unless they can come up with monumentally expensive spice bribes.

To quote from the book:

"Stop playing the fool," Paul barked [at the Emperor]. "The Guild is like a village beside a river. They need the water, but can only dip out what they require. They cannot dam the river and control it, because that focuses attention on what they take, it brings down eventual destruction. The spice flow, that's their river, and I have built a dam. But my dam is such that you cannot destroy it without destroying the river."

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    @dreamwalker - Vader is Luke's father.
    – Valorum
    Mar 13, 2014 at 11:27
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    @almo - Reverse-engineering is discussed. Apparently the spice is not easy to replicate. It takes the Tleilaxu thousands of years to manage it.
    – Valorum
    Mar 13, 2014 at 13:14
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    If it is a physical compound, then I find that defies suspension of disbelief. The Dune universe doesn't have magic, so despite it being discussed, I find that he just needed to ignore chemical engineering on this one. It's fine within the story, and is necessary for it to work. But it doesn't make sense, in my opinion.
    – Almo
    Mar 13, 2014 at 13:19
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    @almo - There are no computers in the Dune universe. Those would be essential to replicate a substance chemically. Also, there are many things we can't reconstitute (fine wine for example) despite having a complete understanding of their chemical structure.
    – Valorum
    Mar 13, 2014 at 14:23
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    @Richard - NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Mar 13, 2014 at 15:14

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