I know this goes beyond the scope of fantasy, but I'm specifically interested in Game of Thrones. I've been compiling a spreadsheet of every named character within Game of Thrones, and am not sure how to deal with nicknames and regnal numbers. For example, would I write the name of Aegon Targaryen, fourth of his name, known as "the Unworthy", as:

Aegon IV "the Unworthy" Targaryen


Aegon "the Unworthy" IV Targaryen

Or some other method entirely? Perhaps it seems strange to include nicknames, but given just how prolific ASOIAF's character list is - particularly House Targaryen - I figured it was a useful method of differentiation.

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    This question appears to be off-topic because it belongs on english.stackexchange.com/questions – Valorum May 4 '14 at 16:32
  • Database in third normal form, perhaps. But I'm not sure you asked in the right place. This platform is dedicated to unrealistic, fantastic problems/questions. Your question on the other hand is very worldly and reasonable. – Einer May 4 '14 at 16:34
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    Thank you :)! I suppose I could split the character field into regnal number, title, cognomen, forename and house name, but I suppose it would waste space given that there are a great many characters who only have a forename. – Lou May 4 '14 at 16:58
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    @Einer This site is not dedicated solely to unrealistic and/or fantastical problems and questions. Story Identification and Suggested Order questions are just two examples that are neither unrealistic or fantastic. I'd say this question is well within the realm of on-topic for this site, due to the source. – Xantec May 4 '14 at 17:07
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    @Xantec True. What I meant to say was: This site is about fiction. And questions like "Should I copy my Star-Trek collection from VHS to DVD" is somewhat fiction-related, but it's answer applies to cat-videos too and hence it's would be misplaced here. It would be no fiction-question. And I feel this one is neither. Viewing Order and Story Identification on the other hand are question concerning only fiction. – Einer May 4 '14 at 17:14

In pretty much all real-world cases, the use of the cognomen would supersede the need to use the formal title. Bluntly, if a monarch is (in)famous enough to merit a nickname, then you don't need the numbers to know which one you're talking about.

In writing, you'd almost certainly go with the first example;

  • Ivan IV "The Terrible" of Russia,

or possibly even

  • "Ivan IV Vasilyevich, commonly known as "Ivan the Terrible".
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  • The second option seems the most natural to me: Aegon IV Targaryen, also known as "Aegon the Unworthy". – Andres F. May 4 '14 at 20:30
  • That's good to know. However, I think I'll go with Ivan IV "The Terrible" Vasilyevich, because I'm using a single name field and don't want to overcrowd it, and now that I think about it, it makes it easier to search. – Lou May 5 '14 at 10:37

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