This might sound like a very dumb question, but bear with me.

Acording to the question Does Death really exist in Harry Potter?

Death is presumably real since it gave 3 different objects to the Peverell Brothers. So, let's examine:

Is Death ever seen outside that encounter with the Peverell Brothers?

The youngest and smartest brother doesn't trust Death and asks for something that could hide him from the eyes of Death himself, so Death reluctantly gives him his Cloak of Invisibility. Afterwards, the brothers go their separate ways.

I presume that if Death had such a device, he would use it. But then, Death gave it away!

So, if Death itself couldn't be invisible, would someone be able to notice Death coming, and be able to fight it? Heck! From what we know, Voldemort would fight against Death if given a chance. Take a look at this part:

"That very night, another wizard crept upon the oldest brother as he lay, wine-sodden, upon his bed. The theif took the wand and, for good measure, slit the oldest brother’s throat.

And so Death took the first brother for his own."

Why wouldn't Death simply kill the first brother? Would the wand be able to defeat Death?

So, consider that someone managed to get hold of both the Elder Wand and the Cloak of Invisibility. That would mean that Death doesn't posess the cloak of which it could go unnoticed, and that it would be at least scared of facing the Master of the Elder Wand, let's also not forget that at some point Dumbledore & Harry posessed the 3 Deathly Hallows thus both becoming Masters of Death at some point.


  • Stone from the Ring
  • Wand from Voldemort
  • Cloak during his first year


  • Stone from the Ring
  • Wand from Grindelwald
  • Borrowed the cloak from Harry

So, essentially, we have two characters that became MASTERS OF FREAKIN' DEATH, should, for example Voldemort kill Harry, and posess the three hallows, would he be able to , should Death come to him, be able to see and kill Death?

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    The answer in the question you linked to is awful and wrong. As per HP canon, "Death" doesn't exist - it's a made-up character in the In-universe book/legend. According to Dumbledore, the Hallows were made my Peverell brothers, not Death. May 12, 2014 at 17:22
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    Well, if that's so, that'd f my whole question
    – Oak
    May 12, 2014 at 17:23
  • As such, the entire premise of this question is wrong. A made-up character from a fable isn't "deadly" or "not deadly". It doesn't exist. May 12, 2014 at 17:23
  • Assuming the premise is wrong, then yes, a made up character wouldn't be/not be deadly. In that sense I strongly agree with you, regarding the part about Death being real or not, I really don't know (as it's not such a straightfoward thing)
    – Oak
    May 12, 2014 at 17:26
  • there's zero in-universe evidence that Death is real. All we have is a legend recorder by fable collector. Do you think (in our universe) that Snow White and Seven Dwarves were real merely because they are in Brother Grimm's books? I added the answer to your linked question to that effect. May 12, 2014 at 17:47

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The problem is Dumbledore kind of contradicts himself on whether the Hallows are real, which makes it very hard to directly answer this question.

On one page Dumbledore says this:

‘The Hallows, the Hallows,’ murmured Dumbledore. ‘A desperate man’s dream!’

‘But they’re real!’ [Harry]

‘Real, and dangerous, and a lure for fools,’ said Dumbledore.

Deathly Hallows - page 571 - Bloomsbury - chapter thirty-five, King's Cross

On the next page he says this:

‘So it’s true?’ asked Harry. ‘All of it? The Peverell brothers –’

‘– were the three brothers of the tale,’ said Dumbledore, nodding. ‘Oh yes, I think so. Whether they met Death on a lonely road ... I think it more likely that the Peverell brothers were simply gifted, dangerous wizards who succeeded in creating those powerful objects. The story of them being Death’s own Hallows seems to me the sort of legend that might have sprung up around such creations.

Deathly Hallows - page 572 - Bloomsbury - chapter thirty-five, King's Cross

Are you asking, Should Death be real, would he be deadly?

  • Having that issue with wether death is real or not, then yes, I'd still love to get an awnser to my question, should It be real, would he be deadly?
    – Oak
    May 12, 2014 at 17:29
  • There's no contradiction. The Hallows are real. Their origin legend isn't. See scifi.stackexchange.com/a/56124/976 May 12, 2014 at 17:46
  • @DVK - Technically, there is a contradiction in Deathly Hallows. Analysis of it is a totally separate thing. May 12, 2014 at 17:49
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    @Slytherincess - the only "contradiction" is that JKR (or may be it was Dumbledore?) is a piss-poor communicator and uses an ambiguous word in 2 different meaning. The Hallows are real (as in, they are existing objects). The LEGEND of Hallows (gift of Death) isn't. May 12, 2014 at 19:20
  • I think that, at issue here, is that Dumbledore believes Death does not exist, but with so many strange magical creatures he hedged his bet by saying they were probably produced by very talented wizards. That said, it probably is only legend in universe. JKR does like leaving some mystery.
    – methuseus
    May 18, 2014 at 13:55

The fact that they came from Death is attributed to being likely to be wrong. They had been proven to be exceptional wizards, so it is said that they had most likely created the hallows themselves, rather than them being a gift from Death.

  • Could you reference (and optionally quote) what "proof" are you talking about?
    – n611x007
    Jul 30, 2014 at 16:40
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    OK, it may not have been proven, but they are at least thought to be very good wizards, Dumbledore mentioned it in the kings cross chapter of the deathly hallows I believe
    – ZenLogic
    Jul 30, 2014 at 16:50

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