42

This question already has an answer here:

During the prequel trilogy, we learn that the predecessor to the Imperial stormtroopers are all clones. Are the stormtroopers of the original trilogy still clones? If not, where do they come from?

marked as duplicate by KutuluMike, Null, Shevliaskovic, Jason Baker, Valorum Jun 30 '15 at 20:16

This question has been asked before and already has an answer. If those answers do not fully address your question, please ask a new question.

11 Answers 11

36

They were initially all clones (of Jango Fett), but to them other clones and enlisted humans - soon considered largely inferior - were later added. See more in the Wookiepedia: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Stormtrooper

  • The article sources an extended universe novel. But I'm inclined to agree with this answer simply because the original clones would have aged by the time of episode IV. Had they been engineered to age slowly, the Kaminoans would have mentioned it to Obi-Wan. But then again, Imperial scientists could have used the DNA of the Jango Fett clones to make more clones of the same type. – HNL Nov 17 '11 at 10:27
  • According to the article, as of 0 BBY about a third of Stormtroopers were Jango Fett clones. – Brian Ortiz Jul 26 '13 at 5:15
  • Palpatine also shut down the clone production after his victory over the Jedi, after that it would have been a process of enlistment. – joshbirk Jul 17 '14 at 20:05
  • 2
    If you want to strict c-canon,in the Star Wars Rebels episode "Breaking Ranks", non-clone cadets are training to be StormTroopers. – scott.korin Dec 8 '14 at 19:17
12

While the initial troopers were all clones of Jango Fett, after the installation of the Galactic Empire most of the men in the white armor were either enlisted or conscripted humans of normal birth. This is evident by the varying heights, sizes, and voices of the Stormtroopers seen in the original trilogy.

  • Could that have been simply an overlooked detail in the films, or perhaps seeing as they were the first films that the issue hadn't been presented yet, so it didn't matter? – Bob Nov 8 '16 at 17:53
11

In Allegiance, stormtrooper protagonists suggest that the Emperor conciously stops producing more clones, favoring regular humans.

I guess that while he would appreciate clones as useful tools, he would still consider them inferior to "pure" humans. He is a hopeless racist, after all.

Also, he has no need of them anymore. Jango Fett was a good template, but the main advantages of the clone army was short breeding and training cycles and absolute obedience. Once the Empire is firmly in place, the Emperor can take all the time he needs to train and brainwash regular troops. He has a wast pool of recruits, too, as opposed to when he was Chancellor.

Furthermore, I seem to remember that the clones did not fare too well when living longer. They were made to fight hard and die quickly, not to serve for decades.

8

Given that Luke and Han could both wear stormtrooper uniforms, and they fit reasonably well, I'd say that they can't all be clones by the time of episode IV -- there's about five inches of difference in their heights.

  • 33
    Well...isn't he a little short for a stormtrooper? ;) – Peter Cassetta Sep 25 '11 at 13:55
  • The stormtrooper uniform was designed to be flexible enough to move around in. Even for a force consisting of humans with exactly the same proportions, this is critical to combat effectiveness (although "effective" was never an appropriate term for the average white-shell). The flexibility allowed for some "cheating" on height of the wearer, but obviously it was noticeable. – KeithS Oct 11 '11 at 23:33
2

No, they are not all clones, if even some should be. The sources that I know of are in the EU only, but there are several references in the books that points to both Han Solo and Kyle Katarn attending Imperial Academies for stormtrooper training. The references are very "natural" with no mention of any clones, suggesting that such reqruitment/training facilities were quite common so that most (if not all) stormtroppers would be ordinary men who enlisted for various regions.

In the films, they are not all of same height and have different voices, suggesting again that they are not clones.

  • It's better if you can cite sources for your claims. I'd suggest looking at the Tour under the help menu above. Hint: since reading the Tour gives you a badge, and you have no badges, it's obvious you have not read it. ;) – Meat Trademark Mar 6 '14 at 13:47
  • 1
    Tkanks @MeatTrademark, took the Tour. I dont't have all my books available at the moment, but I'm pretty sure the Dark Forces graphic novel(s) detail parts of Kyle Katarns training and stay at the Imperial Academy. I'll check this when I get the chance. – Knut Gjerden Mar 7 '14 at 11:38
  • Please stick around. You got the right attitude for sure. +1. Have ten more Rep points. Just do better answers, man. :) – Meat Trademark Mar 7 '14 at 12:05
  • Book two in the Han Solo trilogy, The Hutt Gambit, references Han Solo's training in the Imperial Navy. As far as I know, all academies referenced in the EU have been Imperial (military) academies, suggesting that the way to a higher education went through military academies probably used heavily for recruitment. Luke wanted to apply for "the academy", but this want seemed to diminish when the Imperials attacked his family. At least, this is my interpretation. – Knut Gjerden Mar 9 '14 at 21:08
1

Clones were phased out of the Stormtrooper Corps shortly after the end of the Clone Wars, and were replaced with non-clone volunteers.

Out-of-universe, Pablo Hidalgo has confirmed that the stormtroopers are not clones as of the events in Star Wars Rebels (which occur 5 years before the events of Episode IV). The explanation given is that the production of clones has been phased out, and since the clones age at twice the rate of normal humans they are too old to serve as stormtroopers. They have been replaced with non-clone volunteers who are patriotic and loyal to the Empire. Video evidence can be found on Youtube (starting at about 2:56 into the video).

In-universe, the canon novel Tarkin confirms this fact since it includes an incident where a group of stormtroopers are seen by Moff Tarkin without their helmets. The stormtroopers are led by a Kamino clone sergeant but all the other troopers are non-clone recruits. Here is the relevant quote from p. 94 (the stormtroopers are loading Darth Vader's meditation chamber onto Tarkin's ship):

When the stormtrooper operating the equipment accidentally allowed the flattened sphere to bang against the edge of the cargo hold’s retracted hatch, Vader stamped forward with his gloved hands clenched.

“I warned you to be careful!” he shouted up at the trooper.

“My apologies, Lord Vader. Wind shear from—”

“Excuses won’t suffice, Sergeant Crest,” Vader cut him off. “Perhaps you are aging too quickly to remain on active duty.”

Tarkin couldn’t make sense of the remark until he realized that Crest’s was a face he had seen countless times during the war—the face of an original Kamino clone trooper. The bare-headed others comprising Vader’s squad were human regulars who had enlisted after the war.

The novel takes place about 5 years after the end of the Clone Wars, so clone production evidently stopped at the end of the Clone Wars and within 5 years the clones were becoming too old to be useful as soldiers. Hence, they were replaced by non-clone volunteers.

0

The answer is both yes and no. By the time of the Galactic Empire there were still Clones as storm troopers, The age acceleration made them age twice the rate as a normal human. Most of the clones died off. The Emperor thought that clones of one genetic template were too easy to manipulate (hence why they in scripted Order 66 in the genes of the original clones.) They enlisted many non clone Humans in the Imperial Army. They also made different clones from hundreds of genetic templates. Many years later they would enlist non human troops but in very few numbers.

  • According to which level of canon? Sources please. – Bevan Oct 24 '13 at 2:46
0

This is strictly from the EU, but in Timothy Zahn's Heir to the Empire series there was a mention that the clones were unstable; for example Joruus C'Boath was a clone of a dark Jedi that was protecting the Emperor's museum compound that housed the Spaarti cloning machines, and he was utterly mad. After the Clone Wars the Empire moved to regular recruits to supplant and replace the clone army. By the events of the original trilogy most of the Stormtrooper army consisted of regular human recruits.

Now in the Heir to the Empire series Grand Admiral Thrawn discovers that using force resistant slugs, called Ysalimari, kept the clones from going insane when grown quickly in the Spaarti tubes. So during Thrawn's reign there were once again clone troopers in the stormtrooper ranks. But the destruction of the cloning facilities at the end of the Heir to the Empire trilogy meant the production of clones ceased.

  • Doesn't HttE pre-date the prequel trilogy (and the whole Stormtroopers/clones kerfuffle) though? – user8719 Dec 8 '14 at 10:01
  • Yes, yes it does. In fact, within that trilogy, it is claimed that both sides made extensive use of clones, explicitly mentioning both sides using Sparti cylinders – Jeff Jun 29 '15 at 1:40
-1

Yes. Imperial troopers are all clones, but are not from the same clone template (also known as Jango Fett). Some are recruits that had been cloned from random troopers, although there are still some original clones left in the army, such as Commander Cody and many others. And no Bobba Fett does not count, even though he is really a clone of Jango Fett in the comics, book's, and (yes) the animated shows, as well as Star Wars the clone wars and the non animated movie Attack of the clones. And no one knows who his mother is so it appears to be pretty obvious.

-1

All remaining clones after order 66 became stormtrooper, the Imperial army was expanded with a lot of humanoid stormtroopers who completed their training at the academy. So its a kind of mix.

  • 3
    This doesn't add anything not covered by previous answers. – James Sheridan Jan 6 '15 at 23:48
-2

In the start of the Empire, clones were sill used. But later their new troops, which were another version of Stormtroopers, attacked the cloning facilities. This ended up killing all the clones, also destroyed the clone DNA and the cloning base along with it. So no, the second version of the Stormtroopers were not clones.

  • Can you provide any canon (film, book or TV) evidence to back this up? – Valorum Jul 16 '14 at 17:58

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.