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In Final Fantasy IX, Princess Garnet was a summoner with her horn removed. Wouldn't she not be as powerful of a summoner as Eiko, who is essentially her cousin?

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Possibly. However,

  • Eiko is much younger than Garnet. Garnet is 16. Eiko is 6.
  • Garnet has more powerful eidolons than Eiko does.
  • Garnet is a Summoner sub-jobed White Mage while Eiko is a White Mage sub-jobed Summoner. So Garnet's training and experience is more focused on summoning than Eiko's.
  • The horn wouldn't necessarily affect summoning power. As I recall, the only definite use of the horn is when Eiko uses it to communicate with Carbuncle at the Iifa Tree.

Eiko: I'm going to ask the eidolon to come back. The summoner's horn allows us to communicate with eidolons and wild animals.

So Garnet lacks the ability to communicate telepathically with Eidolons like Eiko can. But that doesn't stop Ramuh from communicating with Garnet through speech or Garnet from performing summons, so it's not necessarily a insurmountable obstacle.

  • All good points. – DemiSheep Oct 17 '14 at 13:13
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Well, if you take images and game models to be indicative of world lore and not just what the developers thought looked cool...

eiko-non-trance eiko-trance

Notice that in her "Trance" state, where she is supposedly more powerful and cranked up, her horn has grown much larger and is now glowing blue. So, if that's not just to look cool, then I'd say quite definitively, yes, the horn makes a summoner more powerful.

Now, with that said, there's no real indication of that in the lore provided.

For the summoners of Madain Sari, the horn is really the distinguishing feature of their people or race, just like the rat faces of Burmecians. When she is taken in and adopted by Queen Brahne, her horn is removed to make her appear no different than any other human -- not to remove her power.

At the time she's adopted, we're not sure if Brahne has already been manipulated by Kuja. But let's assume that she already has her nefarious agenda.. Brahne and Kuja want Garnet around in order to extract her power and the Eidolons bound to her. If removing the horn would lessen that power, doing so would make no sense.

So basically, I'd say that the in-game lore provided tends towards it being no big deal, but the game models -- if they can be interpreted as extensions or clarifications of that lore -- give a definitive answer that can't really be argued with.

  • All great points. – DemiSheep Oct 17 '14 at 13:13
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    A couple of nitpicks. First, trance does not affect Eiko's summons, only Garnet's. Second, while it's not impossible Kuja pushed for the horn to be removed it seems unlikely. As you said, the horn was removed to alter her appearance, to make her look like the real Garnet. I infer from this it happened soon after she arrived. With Kuja destroying Madain Sari, the timing doesn't seem right. Additionally according to Doctor Tot, it was the king who ordered the horn removed. Garnet describes the change in her mother as recent and we have no indication her father ever acted strangely. – Drew Oct 17 '14 at 14:13
  • @DrewS All fair points. I'll have to look into them more when I get home and possibly edit or delete my answer. However the one misrepresentation is your point about the Trance. I never said that Trance affected Eiko's summoning power. I just said that the character model shows the summoner's horn getting three or four times larger when her power grows, which signifies that it is a source or at least a catalyst. – asteri Oct 17 '14 at 15:40
  • @DrewS Also, it makes perfect sense for Kuja to want the horn removed in order to conceal Garnet's identity until her 16th birthday, when the Eidolons could be removed. And I don't really see what Kuja destroying Madain Sari has to do with it, honestly. – asteri Oct 17 '14 at 15:44
  • The timing just seemed off to me, but perhaps your right, Kuja being the one destroying Madain Sari might not be significant. His airship could outrun a small boat and he might of headed to Alexandria next. I would still think he'd need time to ingratiate himself enough to be involved in the discussion of what to do with Dagger though. – Drew Oct 17 '14 at 16:59

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