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In The Flash, S01E01, the Flash was running around a tornado; at that speed he should detach from the ground, shouldn't he? Or is gravity that strong?

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Not necessarily. The Flash may have been running around the tornado but he was also create a counter-vortex designed ultimately to destabilize it. If he was able to stay out of the active vortex region, he shouldn't be affected at all.

  • The area of effect of tornadoes can actually be quite small. It is possible to have two homes separated by a mere yards and have one home destroyed and the other untouched.

  • Here is a sample of such bizarre destruction. A tornado in Tennessee ripped through a small town leaving a clear path of destruction, with houses separated by a few meters.

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As far as the Flash staying on the ground via his own movement, it is an established phenomenon, he does not take flight during the use of his powers. High speed does not necessarily mean "flight-capable".

This is a video of one of the fastest cars in the world moving at the Flash's cruising speed of over 200 mph. It does not take flight because it does not have lift surfaces promoting flight, via Bernoulli's Principle.

The Canon Flash

  • Though the DC representation of the Flash in this most recent television version is far less powerful than the canon Flash, most representations of his powers have remained consistent.

  • Given the nature of the Speed Force which gives the Flash his powers, he does not defy gravity, unless he wishes to, for example when he wants to run up the sides of a building. He does not appear to generate lift, unless he wants to run across the surface of water or by generating a vortex simulating flight.

  • It is a version of the vortex generating power which he uses to dispel the 'Weather Wizard's' summoned tornado.

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    All vehicles traveling through fluids are subject to aerodynamic forces. The reason that the Henessey Venom GT and other supercars and race cars don't lift off the ground is because their chassis are engineered with the right balance of downforce versus unintentional/unavoidable lift. In fact, many supercars like the Venom have computer-controlled wings to apply additional downforce at top speeds--without which, the vehicle wouldn't maintain traction enough to hit those high speeds and would also risk losing control. Others employ skirts to generate suction via the ground effect. – Lèse majesté Nov 1 '14 at 21:49
  • I know this. But I was trying NOT to be accused of adding too much divergent information. – Thaddeus Howze Nov 1 '14 at 21:52
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    My point is that, at those speeds, pretty much every object generates lift. So it's not an issue of the Venom GT not generating lift; it's an issue of it actively producing downforce to counteract its natural tendency to lift. – Lèse majesté Nov 1 '14 at 22:16
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    Yes, I agree, which is why I added the canon information regarding the Flash and his ability to NOT generate lift, unless he wants to... – Thaddeus Howze Nov 1 '14 at 23:25
  • Late to the party, but worth noting that running across the surface of water isn't made possible by generating lift - it's made possible by surface tension and a lot of speed. – lunchmeat317 Oct 29 '15 at 4:05
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Usually at those speeds you'd need a substantial amount of downforce to counteract the tendency of most objects to lift off the ground. E.g. F1 cars are designed as an inverted airfoil to generate downforce exceeding the weight of the vehicle+driver (so, in theory, they could drive on a ceiling once they hit top speed).

I don't think Dennis' assumption is correct, as it doesn't explain Flash's ability to run up vertical surfaces. Simply increasing mass/density wouldn't keep him in contact with the wall (especially considering the additional normal force generated by running compared to that of a wheel--i.e. each step you take temporarily launches you off the ground until gravity brings you back down).

The simplest/most convenient explanation is that the Speed Force which grants all speedsters their abilities also helps maintain traction against the surface they're running on. So if he's running on the ground, he stays on the ground without needing a bunch of wings and fins sticking out of his costume.

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"You've probably heard of the "force of gravity," and you may have heard of the equation "F=ma." What this equation means is that the force on an object is the same as the mass of the object multiplied by how much it's being accelerated."

I would say his mass increases during acceleration. From my authority as a comic book artist:) http://sweattshop-graphic-artist.blogspot.com

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    Do you have any evidence that his mass is increasing during acceleration? That seems like it would create more problems than it would solve if that's the actual way he's remaining in contact with the ground. – Monty129 Nov 1 '14 at 20:42

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