Why didn't either one use a force push, jump, or speed in their final battle? Were their powers no longer strong enough to use these in battle? It could have potentially been a match deciding move to use a force push or speed in this battle...

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    because in the 1970s people's expectations of movie fights were much simpler, and the special effects technology was also much simpler. It was only once the audience was completely ADHD that we needed CG Yoda's doing flips in fights. // also reflect that it takes the force to use a light saber at all.
    – zipquincy
    Dec 16, 2014 at 23:43
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    @zipquincy - Precisely this. The point is that they're both creaky and tired, Obi-wan by his advanced age and Darth by decades of being confined to heavy armour. Their fight is marked by both attempting to conserve energy and consists of efficient killing strokes rather than frenetic movement.
    – Valorum
    Dec 16, 2014 at 23:47
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    Why did Gunnar Södergren delete his answer? It was dead on.
    – bitmask
    Dec 17, 2014 at 10:35
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    You should probably specify whether this is addressing ANH or RotS :)
    – Codeman
    Dec 17, 2014 at 18:25
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    @Robert - the point I'm making is that there are no individual skills. "Using the force" is a single ability: the skill that you use to lift a rock is the same as the skill you use to sense your father is the same as the skill you use to tell a Stormtrooper that these aren't the droids he's looking for. There's only one skill and it's "using the force"; the names aren't relevant, the splitting of the force into individual skills is the non-canon element.
    – user8719
    Dec 17, 2014 at 19:23

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My opinion
First, the battle wasn't that long. It was basically a chat and then Kenobi kept hitting Vader's lightsaber. It was a very calm fight - If we can call it a fight. When Obi-Wan sees Luke he basically suicides and becomes one with the force. So, I don't even think It was a real fight. Obi-Wan was aged and Vader probably thought he could easily defeat him.
Also, don't forget the movie is from the 80s - we don't have acrobatics like the prequel ones or scenes like those. Hope I helped you


Novelizations repeatedly showed that lightsaber combat is more about using the Force than swinging around a blade.

Episode II explicitly ran into the "well, let's stop throwing fireballs at each other" with Dooku vs. Yoda.


I happen to think when Jedi/Sith fight, they are constantly using the Force to assess their opponent and to sense any and all threats. As stated in other answers, however, since Obi-Wan had bigger plans and Vader assumed Obi-Wan would be no match for him, there was no need for acrobatics or things like Force throws. But I wouldn't assume that simply because you don't "see" the Force, it isn't there.

  • no, you can tell when they use the force to jump like yoda or palp do... Dec 17, 2014 at 19:54
  • The Force is not just acrobatics and making objects move with your mind. It's about sensing your environment and being able to respond to it, as well. Luke saw visions and heard voices because of his connection to the Force. This is not something you could observe him doing if not for film editing.
    – rwking
    Dec 17, 2014 at 20:01
  • I agree they use the force for sensing and responding, but those are not the force jumps, running, and pushes, you can obviously tell when they use the force to enhance those things.... Dec 17, 2014 at 22:10

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