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After the wave hits on Miller's planet, Cooper asks Brand "How much is this gonna cost us?". To which Brand replies "decades".

How does the wave and resulting damage from the wave cost them decades when the entire wave scene and post wave scene is one continuous shot that only lasts a few minutes? Is there a break somewhere in the scene where at least a couple of hours could have gone by?

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    I am not sure, but as I am reading this question i believe they meant not the time necessary for the wave to pass, but that to deal with damages caused by the wave coupled with the fact that 1 hour on that planet is 7 years in earth's time – yondaime008 Apr 4 '15 at 20:37
  • @yondaime008 yeah I meant the wave and resulting damage. – Adam Johns Apr 5 '15 at 18:17
  • Wasn't it that they had calculated theoretically that it would cost them 7 years per hour, but the actual results were different? ISTR they say as much when they get back onto the Challenger. – Möoz Apr 17 '15 at 2:15
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The only explanation is an error in the writing.

Before the descent, Rom says (paraphrased) “if we are talking about a couple of years, then I’ll study gravity while you’re gone, etc...”

So they only expected the entire expedition to last about 20-30 minutes. (Which would be a ‘couple years’ of earth/rom’s time)

The only ‘delay’ mentioned is the ‘45 to 1 hour’ that Case mentions, to drain the water. All the other time-loss would already have been known prior to the expedition.

So, Brand’s comment of ‘decades’ could be the error, the duration of delay (45-60 min.) could be the error, or the 7 years = 1 hr calculation is the error.

  • This is a very bold statement to make about it being a writing error, not least because this exchange survived two script drafts, the final production of the film and into the screenplay. – Valorum Dec 28 '18 at 19:27
  • @Valorum, but it's simple math here. Do you agree the crew expected the expedition to last about 20-30 minutes based on Rom saying it's a couple of years? – Adam Johns Dec 28 '18 at 19:29
  • @AdamJohns - Are you taking into account that the effect is stronger on the surface, closer to the black hole? – Valorum Dec 28 '18 at 19:30
  • @Valorum, I'm taking everything into account - like Rom was when he thought he'd have a couple years to study gravity while the crew was gone... – Adam Johns Dec 28 '18 at 19:32
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    Note that Rom is also experiencing time dilation back on the Endurance, just not as much as Cooper and Brand. Brand's "decades" clearly refers to how much people back on Earth are aging, not how much later they're gonna be getting back to the Endurance. And they clearly do get back to the Endurance later than Rom was expecting. Absent further evidence/reasoning, this answer is just wrong. – Martha Dec 28 '18 at 21:28
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He isn't talking about the wave, he's talking about the time it'll take to drain the engines of water and return to space, noting that they're in a gravitational well so large that time on the planet is passing much faster than on the Endurance:

The novelisation explains it a little better than the script;

“How bad?” he asked, thinking that he most likely didn't want to know. “Every hour we spend on that planet will be maybe…” She did the mental computations. “Seven years back on Earth.”

and

“How long to drain, Case?” he asked.
“Forty-five to an hour,” the robot informed him.
Cooper shook his head and uncoupled his helmet. The cabin was pressurized. Everything smelled wet, but it didn't smell like seawater or a pond. It smelled like distilled water that had been dumped on hot rocks—a mineral scent, but not salt.
“The stuff of life, huh?” he said. “What’s this gonna cost us, Brand?”
“A lot,” she said. “Decades.” Her voice was flat.
Cooper felt like he couldn't breathe. Decades. Tom and Murph were adults already. How old? It seemed impossible. He rubbed his face, trying to comprehend it. He watched the wave go, knowing there would be another, and soon.

As it happens, in the end it doesn't actually take them as long to leave the surface as they first feared, evidently due to Cooper's innovative idea of blowing air through the engines to clear the water.

  • Yeah I didn't mean he was talking about the wave directly. Just its effects (like draining the engines). But once the wave hits they actually leave the planet very shortly after that. So all the time they lost they should have already known about right? – Adam Johns Apr 4 '15 at 21:36
  • @AdamJohns - The plan was to touch down (briefly), pick up Miller and take off straight away. – Valorum Apr 4 '15 at 21:56
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    @AdamJohns - I don't think there is a editing break while they're on the surface. All of a sudden the engines are ready. I put that down to poor editing. – Valorum Apr 5 '15 at 0:18
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    @adamJohns - See edit. I think he manages to clear the engines a lot quicker. – Valorum Apr 5 '15 at 18:24
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    @PaulD.Waite - I'm assuming it takes at least 45 minutes to take off and land. – Valorum Apr 6 '15 at 9:32
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I took Brand's statement to mean that the trip itself wasted decades of Earth time. Their Ranger had just been damaged by the wave and they lost one crew member, and on top of that, they realized that Dr. Miller had died shortly after landing (only a few hours before by the planet's time) and the planet was inhospitable. They should have been able to tell that not much time had passed on the planet (see here) since Miller had landed, and Cooper had suggested beforehand that they visit the other planets first because of the severe time dilation. So the trip was fruitless, and it took them 23 years.

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    But doesn't Cooper seem to be angry at the fact that the damage from the wave is what is causing them to lose so much time? – Adam Johns Apr 5 '15 at 0:03
  • Otherwise, even before the wave hits, they already knew they lost decades of earth time. – Adam Johns Apr 5 '15 at 18:15
  • @AdamJohns No: the wave(s) killed Miller, who could have otherwise signaled them not to land had he been alive. – Lexible Apr 14 '15 at 1:38
  • @Lexible ok so Cooper is just mad in general that they should have never gone to the planet. That still doesn't change the fact that all of the time he lost on the planet he already knew about before the wave hit. (Except for about 5 minutes = 6 months after the wave hit) – Adam Johns Apr 14 '15 at 11:55
  • @AdamJohns And at the loss of life of two scientists... but the time lost from the visit to the planet is decades, not 6 months. That time counts as an opportunity cost against visiting other worlds. – Lexible Apr 14 '15 at 15:02
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It's due to the time dilation effect of being so close to the black hole Gargantua.

They say before they go down to Miller's Planet that one hour equates to seven earth years. Thus, when they get stuck there (for several hours - it's not actually one continuous shot, there is a break in there) it uses up several multiples of 7 - thus, decades. When they get back up to the ship, they discover they have been there for 23 earth years (or, they've been gone for a little over 3 hours).

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    I understand the time dilation difference. I'm referring specifically to the scene once the wave hits. Where is a break in the scene after the wave hits? – Adam Johns Apr 4 '15 at 21:34
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    @AdamJohns - if I remember right, it's after they find out it will be 45 mins - 1 hr to drain the engines – The Fallen Apr 4 '15 at 21:55
  • I just re-watched the scene. It is definitely one continuous shot with no breaks. – Adam Johns Apr 5 '15 at 18:13
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It's 7 yrs per hour, as they calculated - however, counting from descent to arrival back at the Endurance (remember Endurance stayed in safe distance, not in the immediate orbit. Time distortion started for them soon after leaving). So: descent, landing, wave hitting, engines flooded. CASE estimates it will take 45 mins up to an hour to drain. When the next wave is approaching, the engines still need 2 minutes to drain, so around 40-60 mins have passed. Cooper sparks them and they get back. Landing, time on planet and getting back to their ship not in immediate orbit - this all took them a bit more than 3 hours in total.

Brand says "I don't know. Decades" as a desperate short reply immediately after CASEs estimation, in that moment they all don't know for sure how many hours it will take them to get back to the Endurance (will the Engines go back online immediately when drained or are there any other drawbacks ahead?). All they know is they can't start right away, it will be app. an hour at least before liftoff and the entire trip therefore longer than estimated.

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Its Easy and Clear to understand this way.

Romilly Says: "If we are talking about couple of hours", I will study Means: Their to and fro journey from Endurance to Miller's planet is approx 2 hours. = 14 years (approx) on Earth

Plus 15 minutes of giant wave hitting them = 1.5 years (approx) on Earth

Plus 1 hour of water drain from Ranger = 7 years (approx) on Earth

14 + 1.5 + 7 = 22.5 years approx on earth. (approx is justifed)

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You people don't stop to take into account the fact that it would take over an hour to descend to the planet and another hour to ascend from the planet and track down Endurance during orbit. A very broad and general understanding of basic space flight is required, otherwise Nolan would have had to hold your hand through the entire movie. Getting to a fixed point in space is trickier than movie editing makes it seem. Of course they were on the planet for longer, it takes 5 minutes just to get your gear on and open the hatch of the door.

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