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General Thaddeus E. "Thunderbolt" Ross appeared in the 2008 "The Incredible Hulk" but since then he has been absent from the MCU.

Is there any indication (in the MCU) that he still exists and has it in for the Hulk, and so could become the Red Hulk?

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    He technically shows up again in The Consultant, but it takes place shortly after The Incredible Hulk. – phantom42 Apr 15 '15 at 15:07
  • Is there any reason to suspect that, for some reason, he has ceased to exist? However, since the MCU is not doing any Hulk-centered films in the near future, I suspect that General Ross will not be very significant in upcoming events. – KSmarts Apr 15 '15 at 15:11
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    Possible? Absolutely; if Marvel really wanted it, they'd find a way to make it work – Jason Baker Apr 15 '15 at 15:13
  • Knowing Ross, he's stewing in a bar somewhere and wanting to shoot the TV every time he sees The Hulk as part of The Avengers. – Omegacron Apr 15 '15 at 15:20
  • Doesn't he become Red Hulk at some stage? – Daft Apr 15 '15 at 15:42
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tl;dr: It's possible, but unlikely, that we'll see other Hulks show up in the MCU. Those characters are all still around somewhere. However, they would likely fall under the banner of the Hulk's licensing rights. Right now, Universal doesn't have the rights to make a Hulk movie, and Marvel doesn't have the rights to distribute a Hulk movie, and neither really wants to help the other make money. Ergo, no Hulk movie.


As far as we know, there's no in-universe reason why any of the Hulk-related characters could not appear in subsequent MCU movies. As we saw in Civil War, General Ross is still alive (despite a possibly-golf-related heart attack) and serving as the US Secretary of State. Betty is also still alive as far as we know, though we have no idea where -- presumably, she’s back to whatever she was doing before The Incredible Hulk. (We've heard nothing about Jennifer Walters at all). There were also hints of Hulk villains like The Leader, and as far as we know, Abomination is still around and in army control.

However, from a real-world perspective, those are all very unlikely. The main reason is that Marvel has a deal with Universal Studios regarding the Hulk characters, that is separate from their deal with Paramount for all the other MCU movies. The crux of the deal is that Marvel owns the characters' licensing rights, but Universal owns the film distribution rights, meaning they'd take a share of the profits.

Disney has since obtained all of the distribution rights back from Paramount, but their deal with Universal for Hulk still stands. Disney, for obvious reasons, isn't too eager to share movie profits with its main business rival (it's probably already mad enough that Universal gets to keep using Marvel characters in their theme parks).

So, unless Marvel really really wants a Hulk movie, or Universal gives up and sells the rights back to Disney, we're not likely to see a Hulk solo movie for a while. And given that those characters are pretty unique to the Hulk universe, it's unlikely we'll see them showing up anywhere else in the MCU.

  • tl;dr: ? Its only two sentences! Ok three with the title. – Jaydee May 21 '15 at 13:42
  • .. the tl;dr part was for my answer, not the question. – KutuluMike May 21 '15 at 14:32
  • Sorry. I completely misunderstood that. (LOL's at self) – Jaydee May 21 '15 at 14:52
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General Thaddeus 'Thunderbolt' Ross is currently serving an unknown position in the military (probably the US military).

We know this because William Hurt is listed to reprise his role as General Ross in Captain America: Civil War. What he has been doing been the events of the The Incredible Hulk and The Marvel One-Shot The Consultant is at this stage unknown.

It is unlikely that he has since become the Red Hulk, as this isn't listed against his character.

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