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In Goblet of Fire, this is the text when Cedric is killed..

From far away, above his head, he heard a high, cold voice say, 'Kill the spare'

A swishing noise and a second voice, which screeched the words to the night: ’Avada Kedavra’

Obviously the cold voice saying “Kill the Spare” is Voldemort’s and Wormtail says ‘Avada Kedavra’.

So this would mean that Wormtail has killed Cedric, but when the wands connect Cedric’s body/echo comes out of Voldemort’s wand.

How is this possible? Am I missing something?

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    Nice question. I had never thought of that... Hmmm. – PearsonArtPhoto Jan 10 '12 at 19:02
  • But, just adding a side note, I'm the films,Peter Pettigrew transforms back into a rat at the willow and he left his cloths behind, has the film franchise not ruined this hypothesis? – user59329 Jan 14 '16 at 21:37
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Wormtail used Voldemort's wand.

From a chat with Rowling:

Rorujin: Did Wormtail used Voldemort's wand to kill Cedric? Is it why Cedric comes out of Voldemort's wand even though was Wormtail who killed him?

JK Rowling replies -> Correct!

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Once Voldemort is resurrected, he commands Wormtail to "robe [Voldemort]" and then Voldemort pulls his wand out of the pocket of his robes.

Wormtail used Voldemort's wand to kill Cedric (we do know that it was Wormtail who salvaged Voldemort's wand from the ruins of the Potters' home following Voldemort's attack on the Potters) and then placed the wand back in Voldemort's robes pocket.

In Deathly Hallows Ollivander says he was forced to make a wand for Peter Pettigrew. This suggests that Wormtail hadn't had a wand of his own in quite a long time. I mean, he didn't haul Voldemort's wand around in his teeth like a dog would with a bone for thirteen years. If Peter had Voldemort's wand in his possession when he transformed into Wormtail the night he framed Sirius Black, when he changed into a rat, I suppose everything he was carrying with him as a human was transformed as well in some way, and kept safe. It seems that witches and wizards keep their clothes on while transformed, because they don't resume their human form naked. I think it must be a characteristic of that particular kind of transfiguration.

My $0.02, anyway.

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    Yea makes sense.. Funny thing is if this is true then for 2 years wormtail didn't have a wand.. Wonder why.. Also he didn't haul his wand around but he had to keep Voldemorts wand somewhere.. – Sriram Krishnan Jan 10 '12 at 18:00
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    "He didn't haul it around with him while he was Scabbers". Is there evidence towards that? An animagus keeps their clothes when they transfigure themselves don't they? Its likely that they keep the things that are in their pockets too. – NominSim Nov 22 '12 at 23:36
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    J.K. Rowling has said that Peter salvaged Voldemort's wand from the wreckage of the Potters' house and took it to Voldemort. There is no time frame given - did he salvage the wand in 1981 or in 1993? What I meant by my comment is that I don't believe Scabbers carried around Voldemort's wand for thirteen years with his teeth, like a dog would carry a bone. If it was in his pocket when he transformed into a rat, then sure, it's possible. I don't see why not. Hope this helps to clarify. – Slytherincess Nov 23 '12 at 5:02
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    @Slytherincess: Sirius could transform back and forth in the Azkaban cell, and Wormtail has transformed to a rat without a wand to escape Sirius and others taking them up to Hogwarts, so I don't think Animagi need a wand to transform. – b_jonas Nov 23 '12 at 19:59
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    @Slytherincess I remembered that point about Azkaban over the weekend. I actually just reread PoA, and realized that Peter used Lupin's wand to attack Ron (he was out cold for the rest of the action) and maybe Sirius as well. So he didn't need the wand to transform, but rather to escape. – chama Nov 26 '12 at 14:27
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This is possible as this was done with Voldemort's wand and Priori Incatatem shows the last spells cast by the wand in question.

I know the movies aren't always considered canon but they do provide a good visual of this showing Wormtail using Voldemort's wand.

  • Why would wormtail use voldermorts wand? It's not mentioned in the book that he does so. I am presuming that wormtail had a wand of his own. – Sriram Krishnan Jan 10 '12 at 17:49
  • From Slytherincess answer below my presumption that he had a wand of his own is seemingly wrong.. – Sriram Krishnan Jan 10 '12 at 18:00
  • @sriram - see my comment above... Wormtail didn't have a wand until the end of HBP. – morganpdx Mar 13 '12 at 17:52
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I believe it was a mistake made by Rowling. There is another one which I think has since been corrected. When Priori Incantatem occurs in the GoF, and James Potter comes out before Lily (Lily died last so it should have been the other way round)

As for Rowling originally intending that Wormtail used Voldemort's wand I highly doubt it. Because in the final book Voldemort takes Lucius Malfoy's wand and scoff's at the idea that Malfoy expected Voldemort to part with his wand in exchange.

It seems she just justified her mistake. That's my opinion.

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@Joshua1729 - I just re-read GoF and Lily does come out first and she instructs Harry to hold on, his father is coming.

As for the rest, I, too, had assumed Pettigrew had returned to the Potter's house immediately afterward, whether with this intention or not, and retrieved Voldemort's wand and anything else he left behind, then stashed it somewhere. He likely wouldn't have wanted it to fall into MoM hands, nor to have been caught with these items.

The theory that whatever a wizard has on them, when they transform into an animagus, transforms as well makes sense, so I don't understand why Pettigrew didn't have his own wand with him in the intervening years. They say in PoA that all they found of Pettigrew was a finger, so what happened to his wand in the shootout with Black? It would've been in his hands when Black confronted him, so it seems likely it would've transformed with him. And if it didn't, unlike with Voldemort's wand at the Potter's, Pettigrew wouldn't have been able to return to the site until the MoM staff were finished investigating and handling the Muggles, and that could have been hours or days. Also, I think Pettigrew would've wanted to put as much distance between himself and that location as possible. So either the MoM found it and that detail was omitted, or Pettigrew still had it but lost it somewhere along the way after.

As for Voldemort being unlikely to let Pettigrew use his wand, I don't agree with @Joshua1728's example. The difference between GoF and DH is the difference between Voldemort weakened and Voldemort powerful. Voldemort is so weak in GoF that he can't even remove himself from a pile of robes. He likely didn't have enough magical power within himself to use the wand, and may not have been strong enough to even hold it, since Pettigrew had to do EVERYTHING for him. He might have tolerated Pettigrew using his wand if that was their only option.

In a similar vein, how did Sirius get another wand? One would expect his wand to be confiscated by the MoM when he was arrested for killing Pettigrew. Unless someone broke into the Ministry's "evidence storage" to get his wand back, he would've needed a new wand. Now, perhaps Dumbledore was able to convince Ollivander to help Sirius after it was known that Voldemort was back, but Dumbledore would've had to rely on Ollivander not giving that info up to the Ministry and, given the MoM's approach in OotP, that seems iffy. Ollivander is a retailer, subject to Ministry regulation and oversight. It would've been in his interests to stay in the Ministry's good graces.

Anyway, I've carried on far longer than I intended. But basically, I think this is a question that could be raised about anyone who was imprisoned in Azkaban (Black, the LeStranges, etc.) as well as about Voldemort and Pettigrew.

  • Can you provide any sources that support your claim? – Edlothiad Feb 24 '18 at 20:12
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