With the 616 version of Wolverine

still dead

Marvel comics is bringing the Old Man Logan version of the character into their new post-Secret Wars universe.

Since a lot of the things happening in the comics seems to be geared towards future movies, like female Thor and Falcon as Captain America, is it possible that this re-branding of Wolverine as Old Man Logan could be used as a loophole to steal Wolverine from FOX?

Could they use Old Man Logan in the Marvel Cinematic Universe?

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    Don't they already have MCU movies planned out for the next 100 years, anyway? Who knows what the legal situation will be like with Fox and rights to the X-Men by then. Commented Jul 31, 2015 at 10:33
  • Is this on-topic?
    – Daft
    Commented Jul 31, 2015 at 10:36
  • @Anthony Grist But they have already shown that they are willing to change their plans as soon as a major character(Spider-Man) becomes available to them.
    – Boelabaal
    Commented Jul 31, 2015 at 10:38
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    @Daft I don't really consider it a spoiler. The comic was called "Death Of Wolverine".
    – Boelabaal
    Commented Jul 31, 2015 at 10:46
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    @Daft There's precedent for it being on-topic. We've had questions about who owns the rights to various works or characters before, including Marvel and X-Men I think. I'm not sure they're always great questions, though, since 1. most of us aren't lawyers and 2. the specifics and wording of the agreements isn't known. Commented Jul 31, 2015 at 11:07

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TL;DR - Almost certainly not.

20th Century Fox are the current owners of the live action rights to the character of Wolverine, and have been since the early 90's when Marvel sold the live action rights to many of their characters. Further details about the nature of these contracts (specifically the concept of the rights reverting to Marvel Studios after a set amount of years) can be found in my answer here.

The upcoming Wolverine film (spin off from the main X-Men films and semi-sequel to X-Men Origins: Wolverine and The Wolverine) sounds as if it may use elements from the Old Man Logan storyline according to Hugh Jackman himself.

Speaking to a massive crowd in Hall H, Jackman said, “I’ve got three words for you guys: Old Man Logan.” The actor then added, “Take from that what you will.”

Quote courtesy of this ScreenRant article

As such, Old Man Logan is almost certainly classed as a version Wolverine from a legal perspective.

However, a recent deal between Marvel Studios and Sony Pictures (who own the live action rights to Spider-Man) has resulted in Spider-Man becoming a part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in the upcoming Captain America: Civil War. Although the rights to the character still belong to Sony Pictures, the deal means that each studio can use characters and events from the others films in order to bolster their own films, so we can expect to see Spider-Man appear in future Marvel Cinematic Universe films, and the upcoming Spider-Man films to reference events from the Marvel Cinematic Universe and potentially use character from other films.

Despite this deal giving many people hope that we will soon see mutants in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, the fact that the X-Men movies have been more successful for 20th Century Fox than the recent Spider-Man movies have been for Sony Pictures means that the studio is under no financial pressure to make a deal. As such, as far as we as the general public are aware, there are no plans (despite it being possible) to introduce mutants into the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which has resulted in Marvel Studios attempting to use their Inhumans property as a mutant substitute for now.

It is also worth mentioning that the inclusion of Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch in Avengers: Age of Ultron is not indicative of a 20th Century Fox/ Marvel Studios deal - these characters are mutants first and Avengers second, meaning that both studios own the rights to the character and can use them as they see fit as long as Marvel Studios don't reference mutants and 20th Century Fox don't mention The Avengers. This has led to the potentially confusing situation where two different versions of the same character have appeared in two unrelated films (Quicksilver in both Avengers: Age of Ultron and X-Men: Days of Future Past).

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    "these characters were Avengers first and mutants second," flip that around. they appeared in x-men #4 first and then went on to the avengers. that said, they have primarily been avengers characters since then, which is likely why the allowances were made.
    – phantom42
    Commented Jul 31, 2015 at 12:46

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