Skip to main content

Questions tagged [palantiri]

For questions about magical seeing stones called "palantíri" from JRR Tolkien's Lord of the Rings books. The palantíri, also known as the Seeing Stones, are objects used for both communication and as a means of seeing events in other parts of the world. Always use in conjunction with the [tolkiens-legendarium] tag.

Filter by
Sorted by
Tagged with
64 votes
6 answers
19k views

Why didn't Gandalf know what the Palantir was?

In the book The Two Towers, Gandalf is puzzled as to how Saruman had been communicating with Sauron. Grima Wormtongue, rather conveniently, then throws Saruman's Palantir out the window of Orthanc, ...
Wad Cheber's user avatar
58 votes
1 answer
8k views

Was the Stone of Minas Tirith still dangerous after Sauron was destroyed?

In the sad chapter of The Return of the King in which the Fellowship parts for the last time, Pippin says he wishes that they could use Palantiri to keep in touch. Aragorn dismisses this idea: ...
Wad Cheber's user avatar
34 votes
1 answer
10k views

Why did they take a Palantir with them when they left on the last ship going west to the Undying Lands?

First, to explain some backstory of the Palantiri. The Palantíri were made by the Ñoldor in Eldamar, possibly by Fëanor himself in Aman during the Elder Days in the Time of the Trees, and then given ...
Morgan's user avatar
  • 26.6k
29 votes
3 answers
5k views

How many Palantíri are accounted for?

"They are not all accounted for, the lost seeing stones. We do not know who else may be watching." —Gandalf (The Fellowship of the Ring) After the Third Age and the final fall of Sauron, were the ...
Secko's user avatar
  • 7,562
28 votes
2 answers
8k views

Could Sauron have read Tom Bombadil's mind if Tom had held the Palantir?

Imagine an alternate version of The Return of the King, in which Gandalf travels to Tom Bombadil's house after the Battle of Helm's Deep/Hornburg in order to give the Palantir to Tom for safekeeping. ...
user avatar
24 votes
4 answers
9k views

Why Did Sauron Believe Pippin Had the One Ring?

When Pippin looked into the Palantir of Orthanc, why did Sauron believe Pippin was the ring bearer? I'm just a couple of chapters into The Return of the King, and it isn't clear to me from the movie, ...
Slytherincess's user avatar
19 votes
2 answers
3k views

How do you destroy a Palantír?

Apparently, the Palantíri - just like the most magical artifacts in the Lord of the Rings - were quite durable. One of them survived a long fall from Orthanc, and broke the staircase it hit. But I ...
b.Lorenz's user avatar
  • 2,878
17 votes
4 answers
3k views

Did the stewards of Gondor have the right to use the palantíri?

Denethor was trapped by Sauron while using the palantír. Denethor effectively went insane after realizing just how powerful Sauron was and that there was no hope to ever stop him. This did not happen ...
a_a's user avatar
  • 2,262
16 votes
2 answers
2k views

What (fictional) perspective is "Of the Third Age and the Rings of Power" written from?

I was always under the impression that the published Silmarillion is supposed to represent Bilbo's "Translations from the Elvish" that he made while living in Rivendell, becoming attached to ...
cometaryorbit's user avatar
15 votes
2 answers
2k views

How were the palantiri actually used?

The palantiri tend to confuse me a lot: as we see with Sauron, Denethor and Saruman you can clearly see far places and communicate with other beings, but how precise were these seeing stones? For ...
user31546's user avatar
  • 7,662
12 votes
2 answers
4k views

Why is so much emphasis placed on the Ring instead of the Palantiri?

The One Ring provides great power, but its power is primarily to dominate others. Sauron already dominated, it is implied, nearly all of Middle-earth without the Ring. It is implied or stated at ...
Adamant's user avatar
  • 117k
11 votes
4 answers
1k views

Do the Palantíri have powers to lure?

Do the Palantíri have powers to lure? [The Palantíri ], in one direction, could see for leagues, with the farthest places showing the least clarity. Their vision was not based on obstacles, but on ...
Slytherincess's user avatar
10 votes
1 answer
747 views

How does a palantír work?

Can they only see to another palantíri or can they see whatever they want? And if they can see whatever they want, what does it take for someone to be able to redirect or command what you want to see?
IamVeryCuriousIndeed's user avatar
8 votes
1 answer
494 views

Why didn't the Noldor use the palantíri?

Fëanor is thought to have made the palantíri, or at least similar far-seeing crystals. Why didn't his sons make use of them in the War of the Jewels? They would be able to espy the orc raids leaving ...
b.Lorenz's user avatar
  • 2,878
7 votes
5 answers
2k views

Which King took possession of the Stone of Orthanc?

In The Return of the King, when the Fellowship finally parts ways, Pippin says that he wishes they each had palantiri so they could communicate with each other over long distances. Aragorn responds: ...
Wad Cheber's user avatar
6 votes
1 answer
797 views

Did Cirdan use the Palantir in Lindon?

The Elendil stone of Emyn Beraid was- maintained and guarded by Cirdan and the Elves of Lindon This stone had 'special abilities' in which it was not in accord with the other palantiri. And that ...
Tom B.'s user avatar
  • 193
5 votes
2 answers
846 views

Why didn't the Palantir of Orthanc "possess" Pippin the first time?

At around the 18 minute mark of the Extended Edition of The Return of the King, after a slain Saruman has fallen from Orthanc, the Palantir is shown slipping out of Saruman's robes into the flooded ...
Prometheus's user avatar
  • 1,525
-2 votes
1 answer
102 views

Simultaneous use of Palantiri [closed]

Palantiri need to be oriented correctly to See: To communicate with another stone, the viewer would orient himself and look toward the location of that stone, and the two stones would automatically ...
Elle Fie's user avatar
  • 1,251