Questions tagged [the-silmarillion]

For questions about The Silmarillion, a collection of works by J.R.R. Tolkien posthumously published by his son, Christopher in 1977. Also refers to the unpublished body of work of the same title that the former was based on. Always use in conjunction with the [tolkiens-legendarium] tag.

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Geographical error in the Silmarillion?

The following passage makes no sense: for nigh and two years after the Dagor Bragollach the Noldor still defended the western pass about the sources of Sirion, for the power of Ulmo was in that ...
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Is there any solid evidence that Sauron was originally called Mairon?

It's common knowledge now that Mairon was a smith of Aule and one of the greatest smiths to be known before he became corrupted and commonly known as Sauron. I want to know if anyone knows any ...
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What happened to Radagast The Brown?

The Maia Radagast The Brown disappeared from Arda after the first book The Fellowship of the Ring. What happened to him?
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First contact between Oromë and the Elves

Do we have any information (in The History of Middle-earth or other writings) about the initial encounter of Oromë and the Elves after the Awakening, besides the short-spoken description of The ...
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What happened to Thorondor after the First Age?

During the First Age of Middle-earth Manwe sent Thorondor and the Eagles to watch over the inhabitants including the Noldor. Throughout the First Age, Thorondor has intervened on behalf of Men and ...
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What happened to Utumno?

What happened to Morgoth's original fortress after he was imprisoned? Was it completely demolished by the Valar? Did Morgoth just abandon it for Angband? What happened to it when Morgoth returned to ...
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What exactly was the Everlasting Darkness?

In The Silmarillion, the Oath of Fëanor called the Everlasting Darkness on any who broke the Oath. This was clearly something greatly to be feared. What exactly was it?
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Did Finwë have parents?

Finwë, father of Fëanor, Fingolfin and Finarfin, and first High King of the Noldor - did he have parents, or was he the first of the Noldor?
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Why did Manwe not understand the concept of Evil?

Manwe and Morgoth were brothers from their very creation. Morgoth whom created evil and wrote into the Music of the Ainur, chords of discord that would affect the events of Arda to come, had corrupted ...
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What does "Turambar" mean?

Why was Túrin called "Turambar" (Master of Fate/Doom)? Is it something to do with the Second Prophecy of Mandos?
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Are elves born in Valinor after the year of the trees Calaquendi?

Calaquendi are the group of elves in Tolkien’s Legendarium that beheld the light of the two trees in Valinor. It consists of the Vanyar, Noldor, Falmari, and Thingol out of all Umanyar. Can the status ...
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What did ships in Middle-earth look like?

I was wondering what the different ships of the different peoples look like, specifically Elves, Gondorians/Númenoreans, and Corsairs. The elvish ships are often described to have swan-shaped prows: ....
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Why did Feanor hate Fingolfin?

Feanor had a grudge against him for some reason, I don't know why: for example Feanor threatens Fingolfin with a sword in either Tuna or Tirion, then Feanor purposely burns the Teleri ships so ...
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Who was Idril when she was the sleeper in the tower of pearl?

In The Book of Lost Tales (BoLT) Tolkien name drops the "Sleeper in the tower of pearl", but apparently only ever had very rough ideas about this part of the story. At one point, and then ...
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How on (middle) earth did Eärendil kill a dragon as huge as Ancalagon?

We know that Ancalagon was killed by Earendil, but how exactly was he killed? Ancalagon was so incredibly massive and Earendil was just a dude in a ship with some Eagles. This image ↓ isn't canon but ...
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Huan, the Hound of Valinor, was permitted to speak only three times - why?

The great hound of Valinor, Huan, had many talents outside what is typical of hounds, one of which is speech. However, Huan was not allowed to just speak freely but instead was only able to speak ...
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What meaning(s) or message(s), if any, was Tolkien trying to convey with his books?

What overall meaning or message, if any, was Tolkien trying to convey with each of his books (The Hobbit, The Silmarillion, LOTR)?
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Which did Tolkien create first, Utumno or Angband?

In the First Age, Melkor had two fortresses, first Utumno and then Angband. Utumno was the older and greater fortress, but it was destroyed by the Valar in the War for Sake of the Elves. Later, ...
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Do Orcs and Uruk-hai sleep?

Do Orcs and Uruks sleep or do they just remain awake 24/7 like Sauron does?
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The origins of the Silmarillion and early stories

The stories contained in The Hobbit and The Lord Of The Rings are supposedly from the Red Book of Westmarch written by Bilbo and Frodo as a memoir. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Book_of_Westmarch ...
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The Valar and their power to create

In The Silmarillion it is said that only Eru possesses the Flame Imperishable, and thus only he can create life. For example, when Aulë tries to create the dwarves, these result in a kind of ...
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Where is the Void?

Where is the Void located in the Ardean(?) universe? After thinking about it for a while, I see three different possibilities: Iluvatar's space [Arda (Void)]: The Void belongs to Arda, which are ...
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What Are Middle-earth Giants?

I was playing LOTR War in the North the other day. Despite its inaccuracy, there was one part where I had to fight a stone giant. I don't recall this from any of the books I've read, which are ...
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What does Morgoth look like?

Is Morgoth, the original enemy in J. R. R. Tolkien's Middle-earth ever visually described? I envisage him as a bigger, meaner version of the physical Sauron, but I cannot find any reference in The ...
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Did Sauron miss Morgoth?

Sauron was the new dark lord in the 2nd and 3rd Ages of Middle Earth after Morgoth was banished into the Void. But before the Valar and Maiar descended into Ea, Morgoth seduced Sauron to his side and ...
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Is the Timeless Void the same Void outside Eru's Timeless Hall?

Is the Timeless Void the same as the Void outside Eru's Timeless Hall before the creation of Eä? Or are they connected as a continuous empty Space? In the Silmarillion, it is said that Valar thrust ...
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Do the Tolkien elves need to eat to survive?

On the one hand, they are physically very similar to humans, and the only crucial difference is that they don't age or fall ill. This, as well as frequent mention of food being eaten by elves, gives ...
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Do male elves have long or short hair?

I've noticed that almost every fan drawing of elves (as well as their portrayals in the movies) show them with long hair, both the men and the women. But did Tolkien ever write anything that proved ...
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How old is Círdan at the end of the Third Age?

It seems likely that Círdan is the oldest living Elf at the end of the Third Age, see here. Can we estimate how old he is? I don't think we can get an exact figure, since we don't know when exactly he ...
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What (if anything) do we know about the orcs who fought against Sauron?

So, in this question, I saw that it was mentioned that all the races of Middle-earth, save the Elves, fought both for and against Sauron during the War of the Last Alliance. The Silmarillion states: ...
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Did Tolkien intend to expand the Ents' role in The Silmarillion?

It seems that Tolkien came up with the Ents as he was writing The Lord of the Rings, and then inserted them into his work on the Silmarillion. In the published form of The Silmarillion, the Ents' role ...
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What happened to the first 3 Elves to wake at Cuiviénen?

Imin, Tata, and Enel were the first Elves to awake in the Cuivienyarna. They were called the 'elf-fathers' as they later awoke all the other Elves at the bay of Cuiviénen. And so it was that the ...
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Did Tolkien come up with the Ents as he was writing Lord of the Rings, or before?

Ents play a pretty important role in The Lord of the Rings. However, they existed as far back as the First Age. I expected them to have a pretty big role in The Silmarillion when I started reading it. ...
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Do we know anything at all about Hobbits in the First or Second Age?

From "Prologue: Concerning Hobbits": It is plain indeed that in spite of later estrangement Hobbits are relatives of ours: far nearer to us than Elves, or even than Dwarves. Of old they ...
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Did the Valar fight in the War of Wrath?

I just finished reading The Silmarillion (prior to this, I'd read The Hobbit once and The Lord of the Rings a couple of times), but something bothered me about the ending: did the Valar themselves ...
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Are there any other planets besides Arda in Ea?

Did Tolkien mention anything about other planets in his mythology or did he invent just the one planet for his stories?
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How tall were the Valar in their physical raiment?

From all my readings of the Silmarillion and other Middle-Earth writings (such as the HoME series), I always got a clear impression that the Valar were much taller than the Elves or Men. However, I ...
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Is there any meaning to the ages of the Years of the Tree?

It is said in The Silmarillion that Melkor was a prisoner for "three ages" before he had another trial and was released. It is estimated that this was about 2,900 years; see, e.g., this ...
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Why did it take the Valar years to realize that the Elves had awoken?

In The Silmarillion, we are told that Morgoth was the first to realize that the Elves were awake, and that Elves who wandered alone or in small groups occasionally disappeared, and that this went on ...
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Do you really need to read “The Silmarillion” before reading “The Children of Húrin”, “Beren and Lúthien” or “The Fall of Gondolin”?

The answer to the question In what order should Tolkien's writings on Middle-earth be read? suggests that you should read The Silmarillion and only then go on to read the three "great tales&...
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Did Anglachel intentionaly prick Túrin's foot?

In the story of the children of Húrin, Beleg is granted a gift by King Thingol, and he asks for the sword Anglachel. Melian warns him of the evil of the sword, and says that it will not love the hand ...
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Did Elrond have a right to the throne of Numenor?

In case the line of the Kings of Númenor would have gone extinct, would Elrond Halfelven, being the brother of Númenor's first king Elros Tar-Minyatur, have had a right to the throne of Numenor, or ...
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In what language did Túrin converse with Mîm?

Túrin spoke the Mannish tongue of the House of Hador and also Sindarin (in a noticeably archaic Doriathrim way). On the other hand the petty-dwarves being largely isolationist and hating the Eldar, ...
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What oath does Finrod refer to when speaking with Beren?

In Chapter 19 of The Silmarillion, there is the following passage: Thus Beren came before King Finrod Felagund; and Felagund knew him, needing no ring to remind him of the kin of Bëor and of Barahir. ...
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What words of Caranthir is Angrod thinking of?

In chapter 15 of The Silmarillion, the story of the kinslaying of the Noldor is discovered by Thingol, but it seems it is tempered with lies/inaccuracies. He accuses Finrod and Angrod and all the rest,...
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Tolkien calls Sauron Morgoth's Greatest Servant - But does he ever really earn that with his actions?

Alright, so there is a great, incredibly well informed community here so let me ask a question that's been bothering me since I finished the Silmarillion. I'll lay out my reasoning for why it's a ...
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Why didn't the Valar care that Middle-earth was in darkness during the Years of the Trees?

It is said that the Valar made the Sun and the Moon: for they remembered the Avari that remained by the waters of their awakening, and they did not utterly forsake the Noldor in exile. But even ...
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How long did it take Fëanor and his sons to sail from Valinor to Beleriand?

Fëanor tried to avenge his father Finwë's death and the theft of the Silmarils by gathering up a majority of the Noldor and marching to the harbors of Alqualondë to use the ships that lay there. He ...
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How long did it take the Noldor to cross the Helcaraxë?

The journey across the Helcaraxë was difficult and perilous, but how long did it take to reach Beleriand?
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How were the Years of the Trees divided into ages? [duplicate]

When Melkor is condemned to the prison of Mandos, it is for three ages. There was Melkor doomed to abide for three ages long, before his cause should be tried anew, or he should plead again for ...

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