Questions tagged [the-silmarillion]

For questions about The Silmarillion, a collection of works by J.R.R. Tolkien posthumously published by his son, Christopher in 1977. Always use in conjunction with the [tolkiens-legendarium] tag.

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Maglor in the Third Age?

would it be possible for Maglor to be in Middle Earth during this time? for example perhaps he wandered across the Blue Mountains at the end of the first age staying along the coastline or somewhere ...
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Are Mahtan, Nerdanel, Maedhros, Amrod and Amras the only red-headed Elves?

Are the they the only Elves or at least Noldor that bear red hair?
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Did Morgoth/Sauron rule the lands already under their sway, and how?

The events surrounding the free peoples of Middle Earth lie largely within what we call Europe. Many continents lie beyond Europe, as we should be aware by now. Most of those are under Morgoth and ...
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How did Feanor create the Silmarils?

Its interesting to learn that the most arrogant of Elves created such exquisite creations out of what was left of the trees when Morgoth and Ungoliant destroyed them and fled across the Helcaraxe. ...
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How tall were the Two Trees?

Is there an exact height given in Tolkien's work that reveals the height of the Trees or is just that they lit up Valinor and were treasured by the Elves?.
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How was Melkor/Morgoth cast out into the Void?

The Silmarillion doesn't really specify in what manner he was casted out. I have a couple scenarios that could be how: He was literally thrown by Tulkas and Orome. He was dragged by the collar and ...
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Why did Feanor hate Fingolfin?

Feanor had a grudge against him for some reason, I don't know why: for example Feanor threatens Fingolfin with a sword in either Tuna or Tirion, then Feanor purposely burns the Teleri ships so ...
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Why is the light of Eärendil the Elves' most beloved star?

Wasn't Eärendil a mortal man? So why would he be most beloved to Elves?
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Did Finwë have parents?

Finwë, father of Fëanor, Fingolfin and Finarfin, and first High King of the Noldor - did he have parents, or was he the first of the Noldor?
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Was Lúthien's song power related to the way Ainur sang the Music of the Ainur?

Lúthien clearly had a magical power accessible via her singing: In Lay of Leithian Canto XIII, Lúthien manages to sing Morgoth (and all the fires around) to sleep. Later, Lúthien swayed Mandos with ...
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Why does the king of the Numenoreans not get to choose between elf and man? [duplicate]

I just finished up the Silmarillion and an idea that confused me was that the heirs of Earendil could choose their race, as when Arwen chooses to be mortal for Aragorn, but the Numenorean king, ...
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Who made Elros king of Numenor?

Elros brother of Elrond being crowned king of Numenor by who? the Valar? by the Edain? It's weird how he went from being raised by Maglor and Maedhros to becoming the first king of the most powerful ...
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How did Sauron know there were Survivors of Numenor?

like did he just know they were there or sense there were people around his domain? like how exactly did he find out about the Faithful survivors of the Downfall of Numenor?.
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Who was blamed for the Kinslaying at Alqualondë?

Feanor asked the Teleri for their ships, but the Teleri denied them. Feanor tried to take the ships by force, and the Teleri threatened to fire upon his party, then they got into the titlesake fray ...
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How long did it take the Noldor to cross the Helcaraxë?

The journey across the Helcaraxë was difficult and perilous, but how long did it take to reach Beleriand?
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What does Ilúvatar do in the Timeless Halls?

Is he watching Arda 24/7? Fraternizing with the Ainur who stayed with him? Any indication of his motives or what he actually does?
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How many ships were in Ar-Pharazons Great Armament?

If I had to guess, I'd say probably 5,000 ships, because it was said to have been so big that it blackened the sea like a giant Archipelago. Estimation on how many or if Tolkien gives an exact number -...
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How did Tuor get to live in Valinor?

Tuor wed Idril then had Earendil in Gondolin, then after Gondolin fell and they had escaped Tuor and Idril set sail into the West and the Valar don't seem to be bothered by this and he gained ...
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Why did Thingol refuse to let Luthien marry Beren?

It seems quite hypocritical that Thingol wouldn't let Beren marry his daughter yet he is married to a Maia. Thingol came upon Melian and instantly fell in love with her in Beleriand, then Beren comes ...
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What is the evidence for Sauron's love of Law and Order?

[I]t had been [Sauron's] virtue (and therefore also the cause of his fall, and of his relapse) that he loved order and coordination, and disliked all confusion and wasteful friction. (src: History ...
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Why did Sauron join Morgoth?

Morgoth became a powerful baddie before Sauron decided to join him. From the wiki, it mentions that Sauron had a: "love of order and perfection, disliking anything wasteful." Which he could make ...
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Were Elves & Men clothed when they awoke?

I am curious as to what condition they awoke in. Does it specify, or is it left to the reader's imagination?
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Why did Elwing abandon her children, Elrond and Elros?

When Maedhros and Maglor learned of a Silmaril in Elwing's possesion, they attacked the Mouth of Sirion and killed everyone but Elrond and Elros. Elwing had jumped into the sea and rejoined her ...
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Turin Turambar and Dagor Dagorath [closed]

I have a question about Turin's role in the Dagor Dagorath: How is Turin going to return to Middle Earth for the final day of doom?
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Did the Faithful leave Numenor unnoticed?

Evil King's men tried to sail west from Numenor to war against the Valar. Meanwhile on the home front, Elendil, Isildur and Anarion are preparing to evacuate. Did they all (the faithful people) escape ...
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Does any Tolkien book state why Elros chose the gift of men?

Why would he want to be parted from his twin? Does it say in the Silmarillion? Unfinished Tales? Children of Hurin? History of Middle-Earth?
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Why did Morgoth curse Hurin instead of killing him?

Why did Morgoth curse Hurin instead of killing him? Was it because he knew that if he killed him he would never be able to find Gondolin?
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Is Minas Tirith modelled on Gondolin?

Is Minas Tirith of Gondor modelled after the great Noldorin city of Gondolin? Because they definitely look alike, except I'm guessing Gondolin would be 10 times bigger.
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Melkor and Theodicy [duplicate]

Did Tolkien write anything about the theodicy implied in the great music and later events? Iluvatar (if i recall correctly) had perfect knowledge of every moment of his music and universe. The all-...
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If Melkor was the smartest and most powerful, why couldn't he make his own race?

It is mentioned that Melkor is the most powerful of the Valar, so what stopped him making his own race? What held him back? The Orcs don't count as he simply modified the elves.
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Why does Gandalf show such reverence for Galadriel and Elrond?

Particularly in the Hobbit movies, Elrond mentions that Gandalf answers to Galadriel. Though Gandalf is a Maiar, one of Ainur, shouldn't he be regarded as one of the elders one above the Noldor?
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Did Morgoth's army take any prisoners in Gondolin?

We all know the legendary story of Gondolin; Turgon, Ecthelion and Glorfindel all died in Gondolin with Tuor and Elwing escaping with a decent amount of people (which I doubt went unnoticed by Morgoth)...
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What is the significance of the Two Lamps?

Before the trees, as I remember, there were two giant lamps that lit the world until Morgoth smashed them. Were these in any way supposed to be the Original Lights of the World when the Children of ...
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Did the Valar know there were still Faithful Numenoreans left on Numenor late Second Age?

I've been pondering this, and I wonder if they distinguished faithful and non-faithful during the Ar-Pharazôn incident.
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How did Luthien defeat Sauron with such ease?

I haven't read the Silmarillion yet (I know that I should!), but I've read bits of it, and one thing that strikes me is how Luthien, a half-Maia, defeats a full Maia of great power like Sauron? I ...
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What would've happened had Melkor won?

I'm interested to know if there were any notes on what would've happened has Melkor successfully overthrown the other Valar and assumed complete control of Arda. Obvious answers like "He'd kill ...
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Was Sauron capable of breaking the girdle of Melian?

One would presume that Morgoth would have the power, but is there any hint Sauron could have broken it as well?
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Are there any orchestral pieces that render Ainulindalë?

Although I knew vaguely about the Ainur and the time before Earth, I only just recently read Ainulindalë in The Silmarillion. While reading I couldn't escape the thought of a piece of music that ...
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What was the moral behind The Children of Húrin?

I've been a fan of Tolkien pretty much all my life. When I read The Children of Húrin I found it really dark and full of what seemed to me really wise ideas and expressions. I know Tolkien was a huge ...
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Did Tolkien ever specify that Orodruin was a volcano?

It is incredibly clear that Orodruin (Mount Doom) was a volcano. It is a mountain with fire inside of it, and it periodically belches forth ash, smoke, and rock. This is what volcanoes do best (...
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How are beings distinguished with respect to 'power' in Middle Earth?

Many characters are referred to, both in canon, and by the community, as being 'powerful'. Gandalf is a powerful wizard; Sauron is very powerful; Morgoth is one of the most powerful beings to have ...
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Is there a companion or guide to The Silmarillion?

Since I finished reading The Silmarillion, and learned a little bit about how it was assembled, I've been curious as to whether there is some way to get a better sense of what the source material ...
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Why did Christopher Tolkien remove all references to England and Ælfwine from the published Silmarillion?

Reading through the History of Middle-Earth series, it's quite clear the Tolkien had England and Eriol/Ælfwine of England in his mind though most of the history of developing the legendarium. The idea ...
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How tall were the Valar in their physical raiment?

From all my readings of the Silmarillion and other Middle-Earth writings (such as the HoME series), I always got a clear impression that the Valar were much taller than the Elves or Men. However, I ...
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What “defenses” is Tolkien talking about?

In the chapter Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age in The Silmarillion, after the final battle of the War of the Last Alliance, the following passage occurs: And northward, beyond the Falls of ...
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Were Men forbidden from going to Aman prior to the creation of Númenor?

From the text of the Akallabêth, it is clear that following the creation of Númenor, the "Ban of the Valar" forbade the Edain from sailing anywhere near Aman, or even Tol Eressëa. And the earlier ...
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Did Tolkien borrow some of the Ring's properties from the Silmarils?

In The Lord of the Rings, the One Ring has many powers which make it incredibly dangerous to anyone who holds it, or even comes within close proximity to it. It inspires jealousy, possessiveness, ...
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What is the cover art from this edition of The Silmarillion a picture of?

The artwork on the cover of my copy of The Silmarillion is a drawing by Tolkien himself. It shows a huge mountain silhouetted by a blue moon, witha Viking-style ship in the lower foreground. What ...
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What happened to Huan the Wolfhound after he died?

I just finished reading the chapter of The Silmarillion devoted to Beren and Lúthien, which contains the greatest character in all of Tolkien's work, in my opinion: Huan, the Wolfhound of the Valar. ...
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Did Sauron and Finrod Felagund really get into a singing fight?

In The Silmarillion, in the chapter "Of Beren and Lúthien", we read of what can only be called a singing fight, at least if we take the account at face value. I won't repeat it in its entirety, but ...