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Is it known why Tolkien extended the pre-First Age timeline so much in later revisions?

The later timeline material given in The Nature of Middle-earth has a much longer timeline for the Years of the Trees era events than what's published in History of Middle-earth (and implied or stated ...
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Why wasn't the complaint of Mîm published?

It seems that J. R. R. Tolkien wrote a short poem, accompanied by a more extensive prose text, about the petty-dwarf Mîm. Oddly enough, a German translation of the poem was published, but the poem ...
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Is the unpublished prose version of Beren and Lúthien accessible to the public?

In vol. 5 of The History of Middle-earth, Christopher Tolkien writes: [A]t the time when he turned again to the Lay of Leithian (see III. 330), The Lord of the Rings being finished but its ...
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Why is Merry called "Holdwine"?

Following the destruction of the ring, when the hobbits are preparing to return home we learn that Merry is known as "Holdwine" to the Rohirrim: Éomer and Éowyn came to Merry and they said &...
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What if two Hobbits just steal some lava from Mount Doom and use it to destroy the Ring in Shire?

Would it make a target obfuscation for Sauron? I mean, Sauron only watches the Ring but not lava right? If lava cools during journey, would it work if they re-melt it before using?
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Why was there no technological progress between cutting the Ring from Sauron's hand and destroying the Ring? [duplicate]

If there are more than two thousand years between Isildur cutting the ring from Sauron's hand and Frodo's mission to destroy the Ring, why was there no technological progress? E.g. Saruman had some ...
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Is the Timeless Void the same Void outside Eru's Timeless Hall?

Is the Timeless Void the same as the Void outside Eru's Timeless Hall before the creation of Eä? Or are they connected as a continuous empty Space? In the Silmarillion, it is said that Valar thrust ...
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Did Tolkien indicate that any adult male Elves have short hair?

@Taylor17387 asked Do male elves have long or short hair? regarding Tolkien's male Elves. The question and its answers focus on examples of male Elves with long hair. I want to ask about the converse: ...
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What (if anything) do we know about the orcs who fought against Sauron?

So, in this question, I saw that it was mentioned that all the races of Middle-earth, save the Elves, fought both for and against Sauron during the War of the Last Alliance. The Silmarillion states: ...
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What is the role and related lore of Andrast in LOTR?

I have been looking over the beautiful map of LOTR located here. In doing so, I came across this region called Andrast. There's one other reference to Andrast on this forum, but otherwise both a ...
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Why did Saruman try to "turn" Gandalf and thus reveal he's evil?

Up until Saruman imprisoned Gandalf in Orthanc, everyone (except Sauron, I guess) seems to have believed that Saruman was on the side of good - while his influence was growing in Rohan. It seems like ...
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Why didn't the Stewards of Gondor ever claim the throne?

Are there any explanations ever given why the stewards of Gondor never tried to claim the throne officially? It was nearly 1000 years after Eärnur died before Aragorn eventually claimed the throne. I ...
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Did Man-Hobbit marriages ever happen?

In Tolkien's Middle-earth, Men and Hobbits lived together amicably at Bree, but I recollect no suggestion in The Lord of the Rings that the Big and Little People ever intermarried despite sharing a ...
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What in Aulë´s nature caused both Sauron and Saruman to become corrupted?

Both the Maia Mairon (who became Sauron) and Curumo (embodied as Saruman) served under the Valar Aulë. Both eventually became corrupted, and turned to evil. Was there any particular thing about the ...
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What did the Dwarves do during the first reign of Sauron, and why weren't they at The War of the Last Alliance?

As the question states we hear that Sauron fell during The War of the Last Alliance where Men and Elves united to take down Sauron and his forces. But what about the Dwarves of Middle-earth? What did ...
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Do we know anything at all about Hobbits in the First or Second Age?

From "Prologue: Concerning Hobbits": It is plain indeed that in spite of later estrangement Hobbits are relatives of ours: far nearer to us than Elves, or even than Dwarves. Of old they ...
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How old is Círdan at the end of the Third Age?

It seems likely that Círdan is the oldest living Elf at the end of the Third Age, see here. Can we estimate how old he is? I don't think we can get an exact figure, since we don't know when exactly he ...
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Did Tolkien intend to expand the Ents' role in The Silmarillion?

It seems that Tolkien came up with the Ents as he was writing The Lord of the Rings, and then inserted them into his work on the Silmarillion. In the published form of The Silmarillion, the Ents' role ...
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Did Tolkien come up with the Ents as he was writing Lord of the Rings, or before?

Ents play a pretty important role in The Lord of the Rings. However, they existed as far back as the First Age. I expected them to have a pretty big role in The Silmarillion when I started reading it. ...
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How did Drogo Baggins and Primula Brandybuck-Baggins die? [duplicate]

Are there any details on the events that lead to Frodo living with his uncle Bilbo?
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How many posts did Sauron write in his blog?

There used to be a Tolkien fanfiction, in the form of a blog that Sauron was writing, since the beginning of time. You can find the first twenty entries here. At some point the person who was writing ...
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Are the 'Undying Lands' America?

Tolkien has said that Middle-earth was meant to represent Europe, with the Shire representing England. When Frodo sails due West to Valinor, is he actually coming to America?
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What are the prerequisites for each volume of The History of Middle-earth?

There are volumes of The History of Middle-earth that interest me more than others, and I wonder what the dependencies between them are. Suppose I want to read Morgoth's Ring, will I be able to follow ...
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Is there a difference between the various 3-volume sets of The History of Middle-Earth?

Throughout the years, a few 3-volume sets of HoMe were released. The latest was released in 2020. In the past, I have checked pictures and comparisons of these sets with one another and with the ...
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Why wasn't Thorin aware about the state of Mirkwood and the Old Forest Road?

In The Hobbit, in the Queer Lodgings chapter, Beorn explains to the company the dangers that they might face through Mirkwood: “But your way through Mirkwood is dark, dangerous and difficult,” he ...
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Did Peter Jackson (or his production team) explain why Legolas' eyes changed color between The LoTR and The Hobbit?

In Peter Jackson's The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, and The Return of the King Orlando Bloom's Legolas has brown eyes (much as the actor portraying him does, although I am unsure if the ...
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How come Balin and Dwalin never mention their travel with Thrain II in The Hobbit?

I'm re-reading The Hobbit and I was wondering why there was no reference to Balin and Dwalin accompanying Thrain II on his attempt to go to Erebor. It seems to me that in The Hobbit they act as if ...
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Does The Nature of Middle-Earth contain new stories or just lore?

Recently a new book containing material by J. R. R. Tolkien was published, edited by Carl F. Hostetter. From looking at the table of contents in the Amazon preview, it seems the book contains mostly ...
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Did Anglachel intentionaly prick Túrin's foot?

In the story of the children of Húrin, Beleg is granted a gift by King Thingol, and he asks for the sword Anglachel. Melian warns him of the evil of the sword, and says that it will not love the hand ...
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Was Mîm trying to perform some kind of magic?

In The Children of Húrin, there is the following interesting passage: They led the old Dwarf away to their dismal camp, and as he went he muttered in a strange tongue that seemed harsh with ancient ...
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What happened to the ringwraiths whom Aragorn set on fire? How did they survive?

After having chased off the other Nazgûl on the weathertop, Aragorn threw the torch at the last remaining Nazgûl there, setting him on fire. In flames, he ran away but obviously survived. Since Nazgûl ...
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What are the swords in LOTR made of [duplicate]

What are swords/knives such as Sting, Anduril, Guthwine made of? Iron? Steel? Mithril?
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Was there anything going on in Rhun during the 3rd Age?

I know in the LOTR books that it's mentioned that the people out there serve and/or revere Sauron. But is there any source material that discusses what is actually out there? Are there any cities, ...
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Why did Mîm not leave the sack with Túrin and leave?

In The Children of Húrin, after Mîm is captured by Túrin and his outlaws, he promises to lead them to his house, in ransom for his life. At first, he attempts to leave them for the night, and promises ...
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Did Elrond have a right to the throne of Numenor?

In case the line of the Kings of Númenor would have gone extinct, would Elrond Halfelven, being the brother of Númenor's first king Elros Tar-Minyatur, have had a right to the throne of Numenor, or ...
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Did Gandalf fly on an eagle back to Middle-earth?

How was Gandalf able to return to Middle-earth and get to Fangorn that fast? The most logical explanation is that he either took an eagle of Manwe, or travelled, like, "spiritually" similar ...
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Why did Gandalf's soul leave his body after defeating the Balrog?

After defeating the Balrog on Zirakzigil, the summit of Celebdil above Moria, Gandalf's soul left his body as if he died, and went to Valinor. Why did Gandalf do that? Did he actually die? If so, what ...
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What oath does Finrod refer to when speaking with Beren?

In Chapter 19 of The Silmarillion, there is the following passage: Thus Beren came before King Finrod Felagund; and Felagund knew him, needing no ring to remind him of the kin of Bëor and of Barahir. ...
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Is Moria fit for living?

We see the mines of Moria as one of the big realms in Middle Earth, but from what we see, at least from my point of view and mainly the movies (I read LOTR a few years ago), it would be a horrible ...
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How did the Fellowship walk through Moria from Balin's tomb?

I've always been puzzled on the route the Fellowship took following the skirmish in Balin's tomb. After the Fellowship entered the wide Hall with the pillars (Dwarf Delving, for easy understanding I'...
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Continuity error in Jackson's The Fellowship of the Ring?

In the extended version of The Fellowship of the Ring (possibly in the theatrical release as well… I don't know), there's a moment after Sam and Frodo have departed where Sam makes a point about how ...
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What did Tolkien really mean by "we being in 1960 of the 7th Age"?

The quote is from the Nature of Middle Earth p39. since that is only - we being in 1960 of the 7th Age - 16000 years ago: total about 80,000 It appears the editor dates the text from 1960 A.D. ...
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What words of Caranthir is Angrod thinking of?

In chapter 15 of The Silmarillion, the story of the kinslaying of the Noldor is discovered by Thingol, but it seems it is tempered with lies/inaccuracies. He accuses Finrod and Angrod and all the rest,...
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Has Tolkien ever commented on the similarity between the name "Baggins" and the French word for "ring"?

There is some discussion on the origins of the name Baggins in this question. However, it only revolves around whether or not it is related to Bilbo being a thief, and I am interested in something ...
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Which mountain is higher, Caradhras or the Halifirien?

I wonder which mountain's peak likely has the higher elevation above sea level, the Caradhras (highest mountain of the Misty Mountains, located above Khazad-Dûm) or the Eilenaer/Halifirien (at the ...
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Why didn't the Valar care that Middle-earth was in darkness during the Years of the Trees?

It is said that the Valar made the Sun and the Moon: for they remembered the Avari that remained by the waters of their awakening, and they did not utterly forsake the Noldor in exile. But even ...
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Is there any meaning to the ages of the Years of the Tree?

It is said in The Silmarillion that Melkor was a prisoner for "three ages" before he had another trial and was released. It is estimated that this was about 2,900 years; see, e.g., this ...
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Did Tolkien ever consider not making the Blue Wizards blue?

After having read The Hobbit, The Lord of the Rings, and The Silmarillion, I started delving, unsystematically, into the later volumes published by Christopher Tolkien. One of the more surprising ...
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Does Lord of the Rings (or the Hobbit) mention how the Orcs were first created?

In the film The Fellowship of the Ring, Saruman says of Orcs: They were Elves once. Taken by the Dark Powers... tortured and mutilated... a ruined and terrible form of life. This origin of Orcs is ...
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Did the Light of the Trees diminish after the creation of the Silmarils?

There is something that is not made explicit in the Silmarillion, and I wondered if J. R. R. had ever discussed it in one his letters or other writings. Did the Light of the Trees diminish after ...

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