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Questions tagged [valar]

Questions about Valar, powerful beings from Tolkien's "Lord of the Rings" writings. This tag should be used in conjunction with the universe tag [tolkiens-legendarium] and the relevant works tag, eg. [silmarillion]

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Do Ainur (generally) need to return to the halls of Mandos to reincarnate?

Sauron and Gandalf both suffer physical deaths (Sauron at least twice) but do not return to the halls of Mandos for recovery, but Saruman dies and is then impotent, forbidden to return and will never ...
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Are the Valar vulnerable to the One Ring?

We know that the One Ring would have corrupted any mortal (humans, dwarves, hobbits, etc) or Elf who claimed it. Only Gandalf or another Maia (Saruman, say, or Radagast) could even have tried to wrest ...
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In the absence of the Doom of the Noldor, would Feanor and co. have had a chance against Morgoth? [closed]

This is something that just occurred to me recently - I had always assumed not, but I realized the key quote might not mean what I thought it meant. Vala he is, thou saist. Then thou hast sworn in ...
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First contact between Oromë and the Elves

Do we have any information (in The History of Middle-earth or other writings) about the initial encounter of Oromë and the Elves after the Awakening, besides the short-spoken description of The ...
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What we we know about the source of the light in the Two Trees of Valinor?

The sun and the moon were created from the light of the trees of light, Laurelin and Telperion, after they had been destroyed; some parts of them survived the destruction and could thus be used for ...
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Would the weakened Ainur and Maiar regain their strength after the ending of the world?

We know that the power of the Ainur dwindles as time moves on, some like Melkor have lost power by spreading it too thinly amongst their creations, and the Balrogs and Saruman had become impotent with ...
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How many of the Ainur did not descend into Eä

We know that many Ainur entered Eä at the beginning of time, the most powerful forming the Valar and the lesser the Maiar, but how many remained behind with Eru? Does Tolkien ever discuss this in any ...
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How many of the Ainur were unable to change their physical form?

The Ainur are spirits who do not need bodies, but they can assume them. From the Ainulindalë in the Silmarillion: Their shape comes of their knowledge of the visible World, rather than of the World ...
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How could Tulkas defeat Morgoth if he was the most powerful Valar?

Morgoth warred against the Valar in the early years of Arda including destroying the Two Lamps which lit the world, and marring the lands in which the Valar had set to prepare for the coming of the ...
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What would happen if an Istar broke the Valar's rule but saved Middle Earth anyway?

If, for example, Gandalf went full Maia, took the Ring and dumped it into Mount Doom before anyone, even Sauron, could stop him—what would happen?
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Was there ever a cap on the Valar's power?

It seems like they could do whatever they wanted as long as Eru didn't have any personal bias towards it. Was there a cap on how much power they could possibly use?
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Did the Valar refer to themselves as Valar or was that just a name given to them?

Did the Valar refer to themselves as Valar, or was "Valar" just a name given to them by the Elves because they needed a way to refer to them? Or did Eru name them before they entered into Arda?
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Did the Ainur who became Valar know each other before descending into Arda?

I know a few of them were siblings like Nienna, Mandos and Irmo are Siblings. Manwë and Melkor are also siblings. But did they all know each other prior to ruling Arda?
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Did the Valar hate Men?

First Age: Earendil goes to Valinor and most of the Valar want him dead ( correct me if im wrong) for daring to step foot on their soil. Second Age: Manwe strikes Numenor with Thunder and Lightning ...
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How often does the Vala Nienna weep?

The Vala Nienna is acquainted with grief, and mourns for every wound that Arda has suffered in the marring of Melkor. But she does not weep for herself (*The Silmarillion, chapter 2: Valaquenta) ...
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What are the “Powers” quoted by Gandalf to Frodo in “The Shadows of the Past”?

We know that the Valar are also called Powers of the World. In The Fellowship, chapter II - The Shadows of the Past, we see Gandalf talking to Frodo: But there is only one Power in this world that ...
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How tall were the Valar in their physical raiment?

From all my readings of the Silmarillion and other Middle-Earth writings (such as the HoME series), I always got a clear impression that the Valar were much taller than the Elves or Men. However, I ...
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What happened to Huan the Wolfhound after he died?

I just finished reading the chapter of The Silmarillion devoted to Beren and Lúthien, which contains the greatest character in all of Tolkien's work, in my opinion: Huan, the Wolfhound of the Valar. ...
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Did Mandos make any decisions that didn't prove to be disastrous?

Mandos is the great judge of the Valar, and his decisions are widely respected by all the other Valar. But most of his judgements have disastrous consequences for the Valar, the Elves, and all of ...
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Was Melkor/Morgoth a Vala or not?

I had always been under the impression that Melkor was a Vala. It seemed to be almost common knowledge among Tolkien fans, including the ones here on SE. Then I came across this line in The ...
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Are there any more Valar? [duplicate]

If I'm not mistaken, a total of 14 Valar, not including Melkor, are named in The Silmarillion. Are these the only Valar, or are there others who are not named/mentioned? Bonus question: As I ...
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Why did it take the Valar years to realize that the Elves had awoken?

In The Silmarillion, we are told that Morgoth was the first to realize that the Elves were awake, and that Elves who wandered alone or in small groups occasionally disappeared, and that this went on ...
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Why did the Valar abandon the Moriquendi and Men?

There is plenty of discussion on this site about why the Valar didn't intervene in more obvious ways in the Second and Third Ages, but I'm asking about the First Age. Between the return of Melkor to ...
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Why did the Valar call to Eru during the invasion of Valinor?

At the end of the Second Age, the Numenorean king Ar-Pharazon built a huge fleet with the intention of invading Valinor and taking immortality by force. They sailed West until they successfully ...
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Who built the Ilmarin?

From my other questions you can conclude that I am searching for a palace/great building to re-create in a 3D model with blender. I have chosen one now, Ilmarin which is the Mansion of Varda and Manwë ...
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Will Morgoth and “evil” Maiar partake in the Second Music?

I haven't finished the Silmarillion but I've been doing some reading on here. Sometime after the Last Battle, there will be another Great Music sung by the Ainur with Iluvatar. I read that Men, ...
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Were all Ainur made at the Beginning?

The Ainulindalë says that the Ainur were created at the beginning of time, and seemingly all at once. Were there any of their order, Valar or Maiar, who were "born" later? I can find a reference to ...
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The Valar and their power to create

In The Silmarillion it is said that only Eru possesses the Flame Imperishable, and thus only he can create life. For example, when Aulë tries to create the dwarves, these result in a kind of ...
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Did Ilúvatar anticipate Melkor?

Did Ilúvatar know that Melkor would 'turn bad'? Was it part of his vast design? Tolkien often hints that also Morgoth's evil is part of the grand plan, and that he does the will of Ilúvatar in the ...
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Did the Valar fight in the War of Wrath?

I just finished reading The Silmarillion (prior to this, I'd read The Hobbit once and The Lord of the Rings a couple of times), but something bothered me about the ending: did the Valar themselves ...
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Other than Morgoth, were any of the Valar ever susceptible to physical injury?

Among Tolkien's mythology, Fingolfin's duel with Morgoth is well known. Morgoth suffered serious injury during the fight, and was left with permanent scars. He had also previously suffered burns from ...
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Why did direct intervention by the Valar lead to major destruction and other negative consequences?

It's known that the last time the Valar tried to directly interfere in Middle-Earth, Bad Things Happened (which led to the Istari only being allowed to lead/guide Middle-Earth's peoples instead of ...
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Can the Valar or Maiar die?

In "The Lord of the Rings" and the "The Silmarillion" some Maiar (Sauron, several Balrogs, Saruman) are defeated. But did these Maiar actually die and if they did, do they go to Halls of Mandos or ...