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For questions about "Zones of Thought", the universe of three novels and a short story by Vernor Vinge, first seen in long form in "A Fire Upon the Deep". The laws of physics vary as a function of location, from the center of the galaxy that does not permit intelligence to transcendent intelligence on the rim.

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How many members did Lord Steel consist of in "A Fire Upon the Deep?"

How many members did Lord Steel consist of in A Fire Upon the Deep? I read the entire book. Just before coming here to ask I read a considerable multitude of book reviews and blog posts, and looked ...
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Can the zones of thought be detected?

In Vernor Vinge's "Zones of Thought" series, is it possible to detect anomalies related to the zones' boundaries from the Earth using contemporary astrophysics instruments?I.e. if you are ...
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References to What's on the Other Side of the Transcend

I've been re-reading A Fire Upon the Deep again, and browsing some of the content under the Zones of Thought tag here led me to an answer under this question. The answer asserts that Vinge ...
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Is the concept of "zones of thought" specific to Vernor Vinge's work? [closed]

I'm currently reading Vernor Vinge's "A Fire upon the deep" (in French though...) and feel I'm already familiar with his idea of the deeper you are in the galaxy, the longest time you need ...
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In "A Fire Upon the Deep", what is the nature of "the ghosts in Countermeasure"?

Parts of the prologue of A Fire Upon the Deep seem to be from the point-of-view of the awakening Blight and other passages seem to be about the separate awakening of the Countermeasure, seemingly ...
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In A Fire Upon The Deep, what does SjK stand for?

May be insignificant, but I really like reading all the relay messages in the book and this detail caught my curiosity. I wonder what 'SjK' stands for. It's found in all the relay messages, in the ...
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What was the gambit pileup in "A Deepness in the Sky?"

I've heard it mentioned repeatedly that in the climax of A Deepness in the Sky, Sherkaner Underhill's and Pham Nuwen's gambits somehow come close to mutually cancelling and giving Nau victory. As I ...
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Which zone is the OnOff system in?

In A Deepness in the Sky, the OnOff star and the spider's planet both exhibit unusual properties. The star itself spends most of its time essentially dark; while the planet contains minerals which ...
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In "A Fire Upon the Deep", how did the initial humans end up on the Tines world?

I don't think it was ever truly mentioned. If I recall correctly, they were investigating the site that would birth the Blight by the edge of the Transcend. So how did they end up in the Tines' world, ...
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What do "temp" and "bactry pit" mean?

On page 33 of A Deepness in the Sky, by Vernor Vinge we read: This was the innnermost bladder of the temp. Besides the spar and power pile, it was the only part that was absolutely necessary: the ...
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What does "Tas" mean?

Page 20 of A Deepness in the Sky: "Tas been done often enough afore, dontcha know? Get ‘em when they don’t know technology—or haven’t yet rebuilt it,” said Brughel. What does "Tas" mean?
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What does "native volatiles and ores" refer to and what are they used for?

I'm really struggling to understand a sentence from page 23 of A Deepness in the Sky But you can't eat diamonds, not raw anyway. Without the usual mix of native volatiles and ores, fleet life ...
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Will there be a 4th 'Zones of Thought' book?

Is there any word on a sequel to Vernor Vinge's Children of the Sky (the 3rd in the Zones of Thought books)? It seems to be ends as if there will be another book, but a cursory Internet search has ...
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What is the point of Slow Zone dredges?

In Fire Upon the Deep, the Vrinmini Organization recovers Pham Nuwen from, what the head of the Org (Grondir? Grondor? I don't know how to spell his name...) describes as a Slow Zone Dredge. Ravana, I ...
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Vernor Vinge's Zones of Thought - Perversions

Does VV at any point, either in or out of the three Zones of Thought book, give any details as to the nature of "Perversions"? In the second book Fire Upon the Deep, the "Straumli Perversion" destroys ...
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Other galaxies in "A Fire Upon the Deep"

In A Fire Upon the Deep at the beginning I distinctly remember a mention to the Sculptor Galaxy. Do they ever make another reference to a galaxy outside the Milky Way, or is this the only one?
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Where is Nyjora?

In A Fire Upon the Deep, the humans reference the planet or country called "Nyjora" as being their ancestral home. Is this place on Earth? I would look it up but I don't have my copy here. I do ...
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Who wrote the Spider chapters in A Deepness in the Sky?

It's hinted that the spider chapters were written by human translators and this is the reason why everything sounds so "human". Was is Sherkaner writing through Trixia? How does that coincide with the ...
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How do the Zones work?

Does Mr. Vinge ever mention how the Zones work in his Zones of Thought series? I know that the book mentions that they may or may not have been created by a higher power, and that they are shrinking ...
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What happened to the Qeng Ho?

Does Mr. Vinge ever mention what happened to the Qeng Ho during the events of A Fire Upon the Deep?
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Do they ever mention what happens to Earth in a Deepness in the Sky?

So, I know Vernor Vinge mentions Earth in his books, but I don't think they specifically mention what happens to Earth. Does anyone know?
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What is an ultradrive spine?

I've read the whole of A Fire Upon the Deep and I still can't figure out what an ultradrive spine is? Is it an engine or something else?
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A Fire Upon the Deep: how come the refugee ship goes so fast to the Tines' world?

It takes Ravna and friends months on a damaged, but modified bottom lugger (the OOB2) to reach the Tines' world. Yes there is a Zone storm happening, but it seems that it took the Orlsnot refugee ship ...
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New Zones of Thought book?

I keep seeing a cover for a Vernor Vinge book called Zones of Thought. Is this an actual book or is this a planned book or neither?
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Does the book "A Fire Upon the Deep" ever give an exact date?

In A Fire Upon the Deep, does anybody ever mention the date or at least the year that the book is set in?
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What happened to the Sjandra Kei Commercial Security Fleet?

What happened to the Sjandra Kei Commercial Security Fleet after its encounter with the Blight? Does the book ever specify how many Sjandra Kei ships survived?
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In "A Fire upon the Deep", why does Old One's godshatter bother slowing the Blighter fleet?

It wasn't going to affect countermeasure anyway, which was Old One's concern. It seems unlikely to me that he would just do it so that our heroes and Tine's World would have a few decades to develop ...
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In "A Deepness in the Sky", what were the "authoritarian turns of speech" in Tomas Nau's dinner speech?

Of the speech by Tomas Nau, Trixia Bonsol (postdoc linguist) says: "[...] I heard a dozen authoritarian turns of speech--and they didn't seem to be fossil usages. The Emergents are accustomed to ...
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What is "anguille borkner" in Vernor Vinge's zones of thought series?

I am currently reading "The Children of The Sky" and I come across this word. "Anguille borkner" seems like some kind of skill. It has been a long time since I read "A Fire Upon the Deep", I don't ...
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After the OOB flees from RIP and is being pursued by three fleets, how doesn't their communication with Jefri get intercepted?

So what bugs me is this: 1. there are hints that communication between Jefri and Ravna stops just as the OOB enters the slow zone. 2. the event of 1. happens several days after the OOB flees RIP ...
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How did the cavorite function in the OnOff system?

In A Deepness in the Sky, the Arachnids discover diamond nano-tech particles mixed in with shale formations from the ancient past of the planet. When sifted from the surrounding shale, the nano-tech ...
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How did Flenser gain control of Tyrathect?

In A Fire Upon the Deep, the pack known as Flenser When the radio cloaks are developed, Tyrathect wears the first prototype. She finds that the radio delay makes it difficult to communicate within ...
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What are Dirokimes?

Is there any detailed explanation or description offered for what the Dirokimes are? In A Fire Upon the Deep, two characters are introduced on the Ølvira that are described as Dirokimes, Glimfrelle ...
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What is the significance of "Hexapodia is the key insight"?

In Vernor Vinge's A Fire Upon the Deep there is a rather odd communication relay message that contained the keyword phrase "Hexapodia as the key insight": Crypto: 0 As-Received-By: OOB ...
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In the Zones of Thought series, is Earth in the slow zone?

I think I remember something about the location of Earth in Vernor Vinge's Zones of Thought series. I'm now reading The Children of the Sky and I can't find the reference in A Fire Upon the Deep. ...
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How far did the Blight fleet travel during The Children Of The Sky?

In Vernor Vinge's new novel The Children Of The Sky, humans are preparing for a confrontation with the Blight fleet some 30 lightyears away from the Tines' world. The book takes place over 10 years, ...
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