Timeline for Why were the Red Guards so trusted?
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| Feb 25, 2017 at 22:52 | comment | added | RichS | @kaay I did not ask about the guards' loyalty. I did not ask about fanfic. I asked for references to support the answer. The best answers almost always have references to original sources. | |
| Feb 25, 2017 at 10:18 | comment | added | kaay | @RichS As Zoey wrote. Sorry if I was being unclear. When speaking of fanfic, I only meant that there was much room left for it - even with the Crimson Empire method (an excellent answer to the 2nd query, btw, I had not been aware of it) described in detail, there is no indication that no OTHER had ever been tried. My intention was "trusted because Loyal". "Loyal" being an understood phenomenon and whatever specific method Palpatine used to produce it, is not important as the result. Not exactly a team-building experience, so some cases may have been recruited differently. | |
| Feb 21, 2017 at 6:49 | comment | added | Zoey Green | @RichS , there were two questions asked: "Why were the Red Guards so trusted?" and "Is there any discussion as to how Vader and Palpatine are able to trust them so fully?" I only knew of one Legends reference so I couldn't opine on question 2... but I also recognized the intentional similarities between the Empire and the Nazis/Imperial Japanese (as Star Wars are just "War Movies In Space"). At least in the strict movie canon, you're supposed to walk in with the pre-expectation of how these guards would work, which is where this answer comes from... it's a little more than a "fanfic." | |
| Feb 21, 2017 at 5:45 | comment | added | RichS | @kaay I wasn't asking about their shoe sizes (Why did you mention that?) or about their loyalty. I was asking if Zoey Bales had references to support her answer. If there is no canon evidence to support her answer, then the best answer is "we don't know" rather than "let's make up fanfic to support whatever we want". | |
| Feb 20, 2017 at 16:18 | history | edited | Null♦ | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
quote formatting; Legends is not canon by definition
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| Feb 20, 2017 at 16:09 | comment | added | Zoey Green | @JETM I've added the single Legends-Canon I know about; not because there isn't a ton of info in legends canon, but simply because it's the only one I've personally read. In fact, it was upon reading that book that my initial mental "click" of the SS to the Elite Stormtroopers really firmly clicked. | |
| Feb 20, 2017 at 16:08 | comment | added | Zoey Green | Thanks for the updates, @Tom. One of the few words I was confident enough to not copy-paste for accuracy, and I got it wrong. Also, thanks to whoever went through and properly umlaut'd my words. I'm on Windows, and I find umlauts in American English Mode to be incredibly frustrating to use. | |
| Feb 20, 2017 at 16:07 | history | edited | Zoey Green | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
added 448 characters in body
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| Feb 20, 2017 at 12:10 | comment | added | JETM | Wonderful answer! It definitely explains things clearly. I'm going to wait a bit before accepting to see if anyone's able to cough up book citations, though. | |
| Feb 20, 2017 at 10:42 | comment | added | kaay | @RichS That feels as unimportant as their shoes sizes. They are capital L Loyal, that's the part important to the story. More importantly, does anything contradict this? Such loyalty is a recognizable pattern, likely to have been produced in the ways Zoey described, the Force just being another tool to that end. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, we are free to fanfic any backstory, but whatever it is, this phenomenon will also play a role. | |
| S Feb 20, 2017 at 10:17 | history | suggested | CommunityBot | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
fixed a typo
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| Feb 20, 2017 at 9:52 | comment | added | Tom | Tiny correction: "Schutzstaffel" - we write the sh sound with a c in German. | |
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| Feb 20, 2017 at 9:04 | history | edited | SQB | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Minor spelling
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| Feb 20, 2017 at 7:43 | comment | added | RichS | But do you have citations from the novels or movies or other EU content which support what you said? | |
| Feb 20, 2017 at 6:54 | history | answered | Zoey Green | CC BY-SA 3.0 |