Timeline for First example of the poisoned hero's last battle
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| May 30 at 3:34 | vote | accept | Ash | ||
| Sep 3, 2018 at 5:25 | history | reopened |
RDFozz Voronwé Buzz Jenayah Möoz |
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| Sep 3, 2018 at 3:03 | review | Reopen votes | |||
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| Aug 29, 2018 at 17:12 | history | edited | RDFozz | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Limiting question to scope of site.
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| Aug 29, 2018 at 17:05 | review | Reopen votes | |||
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| Aug 28, 2018 at 18:29 | history | closed |
Adamant Robert Columbia Valorum amflare Hans Olo |
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| Aug 28, 2018 at 18:28 | comment | added | Jenayah | FWIW, I think the reason to close this as off-topic is that it's not only a SFF trope. I'm voting to leave open since we've seen other "history-of" tropes like this one (not SFF-exclusive) with SFF answers. | |
| Aug 28, 2018 at 18:26 | comment | added | Ash | @Adamant That's why I mentioned magic and mysticism, separately. | |
| Aug 28, 2018 at 18:24 | comment | added | Adamant | @Ash - Be that as it may, mysticism isn't magic. And the inhumanity of humanity might make it monstrous, but it's not fantastical. | |
| Aug 28, 2018 at 18:20 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Aug 28, 2018 at 18:18 | comment | added | Ash | @Adamant In the case of Eaters of the Dead maybe but the movie is all magic and mysticism, definitely not historical in scope or content, and just because it's human doesn't mean it's not a monster (which is kind of the point actually). | |
| Aug 28, 2018 at 18:14 | comment | added | Ash | @Adamant I'd have said Hamlet is epic, in scope at least, the fate of three nations rests on the shoulders of one young, and troubled, man after all. | |
| Aug 28, 2018 at 18:13 | comment | added | Adamant | Also, your first example is probably non-fantastical, historical fiction. It doesn't actually seem have monsters, just cannibals. | |
| Aug 28, 2018 at 18:11 | comment | added | Adamant | @Ash - Maybe. Or maybe not. I mean, Hamlet is barely fantasy (just the plot device of the ghost) and not at all epic. | |
| Aug 28, 2018 at 18:09 | comment | added | Ash | @Adamant Once more with feeling; as far as I know it is a trope entirely peculiar to epic fantasy. | |
| Aug 28, 2018 at 18:04 | comment | added | Adamant | But is it on topic? If it's not about science fiction and fantasy, but occasionally shows up there and elsewhere, it's not really about SF, is it? We wouldn't field questions about why the first girl or boy gets their partner, even if it shows up in paranormal YA a lot. Or about the origin of the wise, elderly mentor figure, or the comical stereotyped foreigner. | |
| Aug 28, 2018 at 18:03 | answer | added | Zeiss Ikon | timeline score: 3 | |
| Aug 28, 2018 at 18:01 | comment | added | Ash | @Adamant I only of it as a trope in fantasies/epics, thus I am here asking about it. | |
| Aug 28, 2018 at 18:00 | comment | added | Adamant | Is this specifically a speculative fiction trope? It seems like it's about something in fiction in general. | |
| Aug 28, 2018 at 17:59 | answer | added | LAK | timeline score: 2 | |
| Aug 28, 2018 at 17:59 | comment | added | Robert Columbia | I immediately thought of Hamlet (early 1600's). I would be surprised, however, if this was actually the earliest. | |
| Aug 28, 2018 at 17:54 | answer | added | Todd Wilcox | timeline score: 4 | |
| Aug 28, 2018 at 17:54 | history | edited | Ash | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Aug 28, 2018 at 17:53 | comment | added | Ash | @ToddWilcox There's a Greek myth about guys who poisoned themselves before battle to make themselves more ruthless/fearless in the face of the enemy, can't find the name but that's not really what I'm after. | |
| Aug 28, 2018 at 17:51 | comment | added | Todd Wilcox | Sounds like an ancient Greek myth to me, but I can't think of an actual example. "Hamlet" is an earlyish example. | |
| Aug 28, 2018 at 17:49 | history | asked | Ash | CC BY-SA 4.0 |