Timeline for Did the Klingons join the Federation?
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| Jan 5, 2022 at 17:39 | comment | added | ThePopMachine | Popping in from the future: All the discussion of the EU above may be more prescient than originally intended. It could be that around S3, the Klingons Brexited. | |
| Jun 16, 2020 at 9:31 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
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| Nov 28, 2017 at 13:56 | history | protected | Edlothiad | ||
| Dec 31, 2016 at 6:26 | answer | added | M.A. Golding | timeline score: -3 | |
| Mar 3, 2016 at 6:37 | answer | added | Kevin | timeline score: 4 | |
| Feb 12, 2016 at 10:20 | answer | added | ISW | timeline score: 2 | |
| Oct 1, 2015 at 20:14 | vote | accept | ThePopMachine | ||
| Aug 21, 2015 at 21:37 | answer | added | user50961 | timeline score: -2 | |
| Aug 18, 2015 at 23:00 | answer | added | Sethbit | timeline score: 2 | |
| Jun 6, 2015 at 2:17 | answer | added | M. A. Golding | timeline score: 2 | |
| Jun 4, 2015 at 8:46 | comment | added | mechalynx | @mg30rg No worries, just pointing out my perspective. I'm not a native english speaker either and I can't even remember this part of the episode - I was just going by what the OP posted. The simple answer is, your interpretation is feasible if there is dialogue to support it, otherwise we have to assume they meant that the Klingons where part of the Federation. | |
| Jun 4, 2015 at 7:17 | comment | added | mg30rg | @ivy_lynx Please note that I'm not a native English speaker (to be honest mz spoken English is quite terrible), and I have seen the referred episode a decade ago. I was only asking if an interpretation like mine is feasible. | |
| Jun 4, 2015 at 0:48 | comment | added | mechalynx | @mg30rg It could be, but look at the context of the convesation: Picard says they were on leave on the starbase and that it was little more than a galactic outpost. While there might be missing dialogue that would make your interpretation more plausible, as it stands there is nothing there to justify the assumption that Wesley is referring to Klingons joining the Federation at Earhart any more than there is to makes us certain that he isn't, besides the fact that the latter requires no further assumptions and thus is logically more likely to be the case. | |
| Jun 3, 2015 at 21:04 | answer | added | Valorum | timeline score: 8 | |
| Jun 3, 2015 at 8:30 | comment | added | mg30rg | @ivy_lynx Couldn't it be "When the Klingons joined the Federation at Farspace Starbase Earhart."? | |
| Jun 2, 2015 at 19:14 | history | edited | Praxis | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jun 2, 2015 at 15:16 | comment | added | ThePopMachine | @ivy_lynx: Yeah, I sort of thought about mg30rg's point but didn't say anything. If you're one of those people that wants to give an in-universe explanation for every inconsistency, you could say that Picard cut off Wesley because they both knew what he was going to say. He was going to say, "Was this before the Klingons joined the Federation... at the negotiating table ..." or "... in standing against the Romulans" etc. If you're one of those people. | |
| Jun 2, 2015 at 15:08 | comment | added | mechalynx | @mg30rg Yeah but the analogy breaks down once you consider the context. It's a 'Federation', an organisation, group etc. it's not an event. Thus, you're sort of comparing apples and oranges here - you can't really join a group but not join it at the same time, unless there is some spatial context ("The Klingons joined us at Wolf 359" which is different from "The Klingons joined the Federation", that Wesley refers to here). | |
| Jun 2, 2015 at 12:45 | comment | added | mg30rg |
Just dropping by and asking, but can't join in this case mean something like "Steve joined our family for dinner at Joe's."? In which case I obviously did not mean that Steve has changed his surname to match ours and will attend every family event from now on.
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| Jun 2, 2015 at 8:16 | answer | added | Petersaber | timeline score: 15 | |
| Jun 2, 2015 at 5:33 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackSciFi/status/605608223069118464 | ||
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| Jun 2, 2015 at 0:01 | comment | added | Steve Jessop | @PaulD.Waite: it's jointly manufactured, but once in service they aren't jointly operated. NATO co-operation has seen RAF Typhoons flying from Italian airbases and suchlike. | |
| Jun 1, 2015 at 22:55 | answer | added | Lèse majesté | timeline score: 10 | |
| Jun 1, 2015 at 22:52 | comment | added | Paul D. Waite | @SteveJessop: doesn’t the Eurofighter count? (Watch your backs, Yanks.) | |
| Jun 1, 2015 at 22:28 | history | edited | Praxis | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jun 1, 2015 at 20:44 | answer | added | Praxis | timeline score: 39 | |
| Jun 1, 2015 at 19:47 | comment | added | Nerrolken | @SteveJessop The EU isn't a perfect metaphor, but my point was that the Federation is looser than a single country, which this question seems to assume. Texas can't enter into foreign agreements without the approval of the USA at large, but apparently Vulcan can open negotiations with Romulus without immediately informing Federation leadership. So it could be that the Klingons are members, but retain considerable autonomy anyway. | |
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| Jun 1, 2015 at 18:46 | history | edited | Valorum | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jun 1, 2015 at 17:17 | comment | added | Steve Jessop | And FWIW it seems more militarily unified than the EU, in that so far there's no such thing as an "EU battleship". | |
| Jun 1, 2015 at 16:35 | comment | added | Nerrolken | It's clear that the Federation is a looser alliance than, say, the USA. It seems to be more like the EU, with a united military at times but also with individual forces. (We see Vulcan ships too, for example.) It could be that the Klingons are members, but in a more nuanced sense, sort of like how Kosovo is in the Eurozone but not the EU, while Great Britain is in the EU but not the Eurozone. | |
| Jun 1, 2015 at 14:50 | answer | added | Himarm | timeline score: 49 | |
| Jun 1, 2015 at 14:48 | comment | added | Paul D. Waite | One assumes Picard was being graceful in not pointing out Wesley’s glaring schoolboy error. Boy genius my arse. | |
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| Jun 1, 2015 at 14:42 | history | asked | ThePopMachine | CC BY-SA 3.0 |