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I don't recall any other references to owls wanting payment aside from the case from The Philosopher's Stone when Hagrid's owl wanted payment for delivering his message to Dumbledore after making contact with Harry out on the rock island.

Was this payment specifically for the owl? (Thus implying owls use wizard money).

Or was Hagrid's payment ostensibly going to the owl's "keeper" as a sort of rental fee?

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    surely it's a courier service. If the logic behind the question holds, are owls the ones producing the Daily Prophet or building broomsticks? Of course not, they are they postal service and its cash on delivery – NKCampbell May 2 '17 at 19:51
  • The "logic behind the question"?! Your logic interpretation doesn't work. The logic is more an inquiry as to Owls being "self employed" or do they have an "employer'. We're all quite aware the Owl didn't produce Hagrid's letter and thus wanted payment for his transcription service. smh – carlupq May 2 '17 at 19:57
  • Dunno the price for the Daily Prophet (which I think he delivered if I remember), but if it's what he gave the owl, it's a very outdated concept that us old-farts knew well - Cash on Delivery, or COD. Once upon a time, delivery services would accept payment when a product was delivered; handy before everyone had lots of credit cards, and Electronic Check processing didn't yet exist, and quite popular for 'As Seen on TV' items in the old days. May also apply to subscription services, often at a lower price than the newsstand price. – K-H-W May 2 '17 at 21:27
  • I’m pretty sure there are other mentions of owls collecting money in later books. – chirlu May 2 '17 at 22:49
  • I can't imagine owls really buying anything or making transactions with wizards. They seem to be owls who've just been very well trained and half-magical because they somehow seem to know where to find the recipient (like Hedwig did with Sirius sometimes) but in all other aspects, just regular owls. – Reya May 4 '17 at 15:27
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It is clearly a payment for the service used. In your example here, the service is mail delivery.

thus implying Owl's use wizard money

No, they don't. At least, there isn't any example or occurrence in the book to support that.

Or was Hagrid's payment ostensibly going to the owl's "keeper" as a sort of rental fee?

Not a rental fee, but a charge for the mail delivery service.

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    I always assumed it was his Daily Prophet subscription fee. – William Jackson May 2 '17 at 20:18
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No, they don’t, it’s payment for delivering the Daily Prophet.

Hagrid explains why the owl wanted payment - it was for delivering the newspaper. The newspaper costs money, so the owl delivering it has to collect the money and take it back for the Daily Prophet. It doesn’t seem like the payments are actually for the owls, but that they collect the money for the Daily Prophet and deliver the money to them similarly to how they deliver messages.

“The owl swooped in and dropped the newspaper on top of Hagrid, who didn’t wake up. The owl then fluttered on to the floor and began to attack Hagrid’s coat.

‘Don’t do that.’

Harry tried to wave the owl out of the way, but it snapped its beak fiercely at him and carried on savaging the coat.

‘Hagrid!’ said Harry loudly. ‘There’s an owl –’

‘Pay him,’ Hagrid grunted into the sofa.

‘What?’

‘He wants payin’ fer deliverin’ the paper. Look in the pockets.”
- Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, Chapter 5 (Diagon Alley)

Owls take messages for free, but it seems like there’s a subscription service where wizards can have the Daily Prophet delivered to them by owl and pay when the owl arrives with their paper. Hermione also gets the Daily Prophet and has to pay the owl that brought it.

“Hermione, however, had to move her orange juice aside quickly to make way for a large damp barn owl bearing a sodden Daily Prophet in its beak.

‘What are you still getting that for?’ said Harry irritably, thinking of Seamus as Hermione placed a Knut in the leather pouch on the owl’s leg and it took off again.”
- Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Chapter 12 (Professor Umbridge)

Another time Hermione is delivered the Daily Prophet, she has to give payment to the owl as well.

“Hermione was not the only person eagerly awaiting her Daily Prophet: nearly everyone was eager for more news about the escaped Death Eaters, who, despite many reported sightings, had still not been caught. She gave the delivery owl a Knut and unfolded the newspaper eagerly while Harry helped himself to orange juice; as he had only received one note during the entire year, he was sure, when the first owl landed with a thud in front of him, that it had made a mistake.”
- Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Chapter 26 (Seen and Unforeseen)

The Daily Prophet owls presumably then return to the Daily Prophet with the money they’re given to take. The money seems to be payment for buying the newspaper itself, not for the owl delivering it.

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    Good answer Bella! I thought there was a case where Hermione did the same thing. And it seems rather certain that indeed it's for the paper and not the delivery. One might argue that (for those of us who remember it anyway ? :)) the subscription to a newspaper itself includes delivery so it's the actual item - the paper - that costs money and not the delivery itself. And as for owls: for wizards who don't think as highly for other species would they really care if the owl is overused? Probably not much. Maybe not slaves but they're being used for delivery etc. and the owl doesn't use the gold. – Pryftan May 26 '18 at 23:41

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