13

I read that story at lest 30 years ago, maybe more.

I don't think it was a full-length novel, but it was not a very short story either.

There was an underwater farm that raised animals for food for the general population who lived on the surface. It was definitely not a generally underwater civilisation, just a farm. Maybe not the only farm in all the oceans, but there were many more "surface people" than deep-water farmers.

I am afraid they raised sea mammals, not fish. Dolphins or porpoises or dugongs or manatees, I don't remember. Not whales, though. Still not very politically correct, now.

Anyway, I remember very little. The main point of the story was, since the farm was very deep, they could not use nitrogen. They needed helium. Oxygen was not a problem, they had a lot of energy to extract it from water. But helium is rare. They recycled it as much as possible but there was a steady unavoidable seepage. And the surface people did not want to give them enough helium.

I don't remember much but at the end the deep-sea dwellers managed to get their own helium supplies and won the upper hand on the surface people who wanted to pressure them.


Edit

I think I remember that the surface people had space travel, at least within the solar system.

Definitely no aliens, but maybe human space settlers. On the Moon, on Mars, on asteroids... or just artificial space stations.

It is possible that it was the spacers who eventually came to help the deep-sea people, they had access to a lot of helium up there.

But it may well be a false memory.


Second Edit

As per comments by a) beichst and b) Moriarty

a) There are many similarities with Crisis on Conshelf 10 by Monica Hughes

But I don't remember "Gillers", humans who could breathe in water. Also the main protagonist was a lifelong deep-sea farmer, not someone recently arrived from the Moon.

I remember a dialogue of the main protagonist with a "surfacer", on the topic of quality. He was claiming that while "surface grown" beef came in various qualities, underwater farms were only selling to "surfacers" super-top quality. Now can one compare beef with fish ? Well, it is possible, it this was fish bioengineered to taste like meat. That might well be the cas in my story. But this point does not seem to be explicit in Crisis on Conshelf 10.

If fish in the latter book tastes like meat, and helium is more important than beichst claims, then the plot of Crisis on Conshelf 10 converges to mine. The deep-sea farmers might well have been on the verge of rebellion because of the stinginess of the "surfacers", and help from the Moon on the specific topic of helium might have avoided violence. After all, I might have forgotten the "Gillers".

I know I can have false memories. It is possible that the "GIllers" are a false absence of memories.

But two things I am positive of :

  • the crucial importance of helium

  • the "super-top" quality of sea-produced food, so it had at least to taste like meat, but bio-engineered fish is indeed a possibility.

b) I was aware when I first posted of the plot similarity with Asimov's "The Martian Way". I seriously considered mentioning this similarity, but decided against. Maybe I should have.

However, the crucial point in "The Martian Way" is that the Martians dit it all by themselves. In this story, I have a doubt : did the deep-sea dwellers solve their helium problem completely by themselves "à la Martian", or was the alliance with "Spacers" essential in bypassing the stinginess of the "surfacers" ? That would make a significant difference with "The Martian Way".

25
  • What was the helium used for? Commented Feb 1, 2022 at 17:28
  • Do you remember anything about the plot? Submarines? Sea monsters? Commented Feb 1, 2022 at 17:58
  • 1
    @DoscoJones At very high pressure, nitrogen becomes toxic. One has to use helium instead. In fact one can use hydrogen instead (Hydrox), which would have solved the problem. But maybe it was not well-known when the author wrote this book, or he just did not care, he wanted a good story. When I read it, the idea of Hydrox did not occur to me. Since that time, I found out it is not a dangerously explosive mixture if the proportion of oxygen is very small, which is what is needed for very deep diving.
    – Alfred
    Commented Feb 1, 2022 at 18:00
  • 1
    @skyjack I looked for *Medusa's Children" on Goodreads. goodreads.com/book/show/883689.Medusa_s_Children The readers review really do not match my memories. What Meghan McGinnis and Mark Horne allude to is totally absent from what I remember. And I would have remembered it. Begum Keskin, too, alludes to the unspeakable LOL
    – Alfred
    Commented Feb 2, 2022 at 5:41
  • 1
    I found an e-book of Crisis on Conshelf Ten and it doesn't mention helium at all. Commented Feb 9, 2022 at 11:35

1 Answer 1

3
+50

This is a very partial answer, but in the absence of anything better I will put it forward anyway.

Kenneth Bulmer's 1957 novel "City Under the Sea" concerns the development of undersea communities, run by highly unscrupulous corporations, for "the intense cultivation or sea-weeds and adapted marine plants, the solid shoals of fish herded about the sea like cattle", as well as mineral and oil extraction. Rather than sea mammals, however, they concentrated on raising fish:

Processed fish and fish-products were on every table — and few housewives could be certain that what they were cooking had once had the unmistakable tang of fish

At several points people are shown eating the fish meat and noting how it is practically indistinguishable from chicken. A point of similarity with the question is that the story emphasises the importance of helium as a diving gas, and, for example, explains the practical problems of speaking intelligibly in an atmosphere with a high helium content. There seems to be no particular shortage of the gas however, or any conflict related to it.

There are indeed human space settlers, who have settled the Moon and have the ambition of settling Saturn's moons, and there is a competition for funding with the undersea people. The protagonist is a Space Force officer, Commander Jeremy Dodge, who is invited to visit the undersea community. The invitation is a ruse however, and he is press-ganged into the enslaved workforce who have been surgically altered to have gills to breathe seawater directly, so-called "menfish". The rest of the novel deal with the discovery of alien life in a nearby ocean trench, and how undersea and space expertise must combine to deal with it.

So this matches on undersea farming, helium, and interaction with spacefarers. Unfortunately it does not match on helium shortages, water-breathing humans, or a fight for freedom against the surface folk.

2
  • This is not my book, and even farther than "Crisis.." But stilll an interesting effort. Unless beichst posts his suggestion as an answer, or unless a third party posts an even better one before that time, I'll manually give the bonus to you without accepting your answer shortly before the dealine, 6:00PM in France, 5:00 UT
    – Alfred
    Commented Feb 11, 2022 at 9:18
  • The deadline was still a bit later but I have to run. Too bad for latecomers ! Kudos to you !
    – Alfred
    Commented Feb 11, 2022 at 16:44

Your Answer

By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you agree to our terms of service and acknowledge you have read our privacy policy.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.