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At the end of the War of the Ring when Aragorn becomes the King of The Reunited Kingdoms (Two Kingdoms). By doing so he reunited the 2 realms (Arnor & Gondor) of Elendil.

As the new High King, Aragorn took over and combined the 'kingship' from the Steward of Gondor and King Théoden of Rohan.

So in other words, were Rohan and Arnor the same? My understanding has always been that Rohan and Gondor were the SAME country, just that they didn't really like each other very much.

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    No. Arnor, Gondor, and Rohan are separate countries. Aragorn didn't become king of Rohan, only of Arnor and Gondor. Eomer remained king of Rohan, which was an independently governed country (as was the Shire).
    – Rand al'Thor
    Commented May 6, 2016 at 23:24
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    The territory of Rohan was originally part of 'the Kingdoms of Elendil' but it was a province of Gondor, given away after the Rohirrim came to help Gondor during a war, rather than part of Arnor. Commented May 6, 2016 at 23:37
  • Rohan is very specifically a province of Gondor that attained independence (Calenardhon). The previous provincial seat of Calenardhon under the Numenorean / Gondorian was Isengard, I believe. The Rohirrim were awarded the province after it was repopulated by them due to the people of Eorl riding south to defend Gondor. Rohan didn't exist as a separate entity before that, only as part of the Numenorean lands, those under rule from the south not the north.
    – Ber
    Commented May 23, 2016 at 7:26
  • The Shire (and Bree-land) were however part of Arnor (later Arthedain). The Shire was only officially made an independent realm by King Elessar (Aragorn).
    – OrangeDog
    Commented Jun 19, 2018 at 11:23

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TL; DR: No. Not only have Arnor and Rohan always been two distinct entities, they had never existed at the same time until Aragorn became king of Gondor and Arnor.


Flaws in the question:

As the new High King, Aragorn took over and combined the 'kingship' from the Steward of Gondor and King Théoden of Rohan.

No, Aragorn combined the kingship of Gondor with the long-extinct kingship of the long-defunct kingdom of Arnor. Rohan remained independent, and Éomer succeeded Théoden as the King of Rohan.


Geography:

As we can see in Tolkien's map of Middle-earth, Arnor (or "The Northern Kingdom") is in the northwest - in the same neighborhood as the Shire - and Rohan (or "The Horse Country") is much rather south and east.

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The better-known map tells the same story.

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And in Karen Wynn Fonstad's The Atlas of Middle-Earth, we see that after Aragorn took the throne of Gondor and Arnor, he reunited the two kingdoms (minus the Shire and a few other areas); Rohan, however, remained independent (but allied to the Reunited Kingdom).

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History:

Overview:

Arnor:

The original kingdom of Arnor, established in the year 3320 of the Second Age, had been divided into the three separate (and often mutually hostile) petty kingdoms of Arthedain, Cardolan, and Rhudaur around 861 TA, which made the "Kingdom of Arnor" more a fond memory than a reality. When the last of these three kingdoms fell in 1974 TA, even the pretense of the existence of "Arnor" was dropped, and the last remnants of Arnor were abandoned.

Rohan:

Rohan didn't exist as such until the year 2510 of the Third Age. From that point on, it remained an independent kingdom.

Gondor:

Gondor, meanwhile, had fallen in stature, strength, and importance over the course of the Third Age, but it never ceased to exist.

The Reunited Kingdom and Rohan:

When Aragorn was crowned as King, Arnor popped back into existence (as half of the Reunited Kingdom) for the first time in a thousand years; until then, Rohan and Arnor had never existed at the same time. After Aragorn's ascension to the throne, Arnor and Gondor were united, but Rohan remained separate and independent from - though extremely friendly with, and closely allied to - both of them.


In Depth:

Rohan and Gondor:

Gondor had claimed "Calenardhon" - the land that would later become Rohan - as part of its own kingdom until 2510 of the Third Age, when Eorl of Rohan came to the aid of Gondor's forces in battle. As a reward for Rohan's actions, Cirion, the Steward of Gondor, granted Calenardhon to the Rohirrim.

‘Thus [Eorl of Rohan] came to the battle of the Field of Celebrant, for that was the name of the green land that lay between Silverlode and Limlight. There the northern army of Gondor was in peril. Defeated in the Wold and cut off from the south, it had been driven across the Limlight, and was then suddenly assailed by the Orc-host that pressed it towards the Anduin. All hope was lost when, unlooked for, the Riders came out of the North and broke upon the rear of the enemy. Then the fortunes of battle were reversed, and the enemy was driven with slaughter over Limlight. Eorl led his men in pursuit, and so great was the fear that went before the horsemen of the North that the invaders of the Wold were also thrown into panic, and the Riders hunted them over the plains of Calenardhon.’

The people of that region had become few since the Plague, and most of those that remained had been slaughtered by the savage Easterlings. Cirion [the Steward of Gondor], therefore, in reward for his aid, gave Calenardhon between Anduin and Isen to Eorl and his people; and they sent north for their wives and children and their goods and settled in that land. They named it anew the Mark of the Riders, and they called themselves the Eorlingas; but in Gondor their land was called Rohan, and its people the Rohirrim (that is, the Horse-lords). Thus Eorl became the first King of the Mark, and he chose for his dwelling a green hill before the feet of the White Mountains that were the south-wall of his land. There the Rohirrim lived afterwards as free men under their own kings and laws, but in perpetual alliance with Gondor.
- The Lord of the Rings; The Return of the King, Appendices

Arnor and Gondor:

When Númenór was destroyed, the Faithful Númenóreans who had survived sailed to Middle-earth and established two separate but allied Númenórean kingdoms: Arnor in the north and Gondor in the south.

The last leaders of the Faithful, Elendil and his sons, escaped from the Downfall with nine ships, bearing a seedling of Nimloth, and the Seven Seeing-stones (gifts of the Eldar to their House); and they were borne on the wind of a great storm and cast upon the shores of Middle-earth. There they established in the North-west the Númenórean realms in exile, Arnor and Gondor. Elendil was the High King and dwelt in the North at Annúminas; and the rule in the South was committed to his sons, Isildur and Anárion. They founded there Osgiliath, between Minas Ithil and Minas Anor, not far from the confines of Mordor. For this good at least they believed had come out of ruin, that Sauron also had perished.
- ibid

And:

‘Eriador was of old the name of all the lands between the Misty Mountains and the Blue; in the South it was bounded by the Greyflood and the Glanduin that flows into it above Tharbad.

‘At its greatest Arnor included all Eriador, except the regions beyond the Lune, and the lands east of Greyflood and Loudwater, in which lay Rivendell and Hollin. Beyond the Lune was Elvish country, green and quiet, where no Men went; but Dwarves dwelt, and still dwell, in the east side of the Blue Mountains, especially in those parts south of the Gulf of Lune, where they have mines that are still in use. For this reason they were accustomed to pass east along the Great Road, as they had done for long years before we came to the Shire. At the Grey Havens dwelt Círdan the Shipwright, and some say he dwells there still, until the Last Ship sets sail into the West. In the days of the Kings most of the High Elves that still lingered in Middle-earth dwelt with Círdan or in the seaward lands of Lindon. If any now remain they are few.’
- ibid

And:

The might of Hyarmendacil no enemy dared to contest during the remainder of his long reign. He was king for one hundred and thirty-four years, the longest reign but one of all the Line of Anárion. In his day Gondor reached the summit of its power. The realm then extended north to the field of Celebrant and the southern eaves of Mirkwood; west to the Greyflood; east to the inland Sea of Rhûn; south to the River Harnen, and thence along the coast to the peninsula and haven of Umbar.
- ibid

The Reunited Kingdom and Rohan:

In Éomer’s day in the Mark men had peace who wished for it, and the people increased both in the dales and the plains, and their horses multiplied. In Gondor the King Elessar now ruled, and in Arnor also. In all the lands of those realms of old he was king, save in Rohan only; for he renewed to Éomer the gift of Cirion, and Éomer took again the Oath of Eorl. Often he fulfilled it. For though Sauron had passed, the hatreds and evils that he bred had not died, and the King of the West had many enemies to subdue before the White Tree could grow in peace. And wherever King Elessar went with war King Éomer went with him; and beyond the Sea of Rhûn and on the far fields of the South the thunder of the cavalry of the Mark was heard, and the White Horse upon Green flew in many winds until Éomer grew old.
- ibid

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  • Is it worth adding that Gondor kept Isenguard until passing the keys of Orthanc to Saruman and then claiming it back?
    – user46509
    Commented May 7, 2016 at 6:47
  • By the way, why does New Arnor exclude the wedge between the rivers (containing Hollin)? Commented Apr 26, 2017 at 6:46
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No: Arnor, Gondor, and Rohan are all separate countries.

Arnor and Gondor were separated after the death of Isildur, the second king of both, in the second year of the Third Age. At this point, Isildur's son Valandil became the new king of Arnor while Isildur's nephew, Anarion's son Meneldil, became the new king of Gondor, and the two countries thrived independently, albeit closely allied, for many centuries.

The kingdom of Arnor fell due to civil war and conflict with Angmar, the final outpost of Arthedain with its king Arvedui, "last king of Arnor", being lost in T.A. 1979. Gondor was at that time undergoing assaults from the East and was too late to send aid to their beleaguered cousins in Arnor.

Rohan was always a separate kingdom, populated by the Eotheod, a remnant of the Northmen of Rhovanion, who had long had close ties with Gondor. Despite the enduring alliance with Rohan and Gondor, they were always independent countries, both before and after the War of the Ring. Upon his accession to the throne as King Elessar, Aragorn became king of both Arnor and Gondor, the Reunited Kingdom, but not Rohan, which remained under the jurisdiction of his good friend Eomer.

The Reunited Kingdom is shown in green on the following map. Note the loop it makes around Rohan, which is not part of the same country (and also the Shire, which remains autonomous and self-governing by decree of Aragorn):

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    Correction: Rohan had not always been a seperate country. It lies in former Gondor territory, which was granted to Eorl by the steward Cirion as reward for aiding Gondor in times of need. See Unfinished Tales. The Eotheod originally came from far up Anduin Vale.
    – Marakai
    Commented May 7, 2016 at 0:24
  • @Marakai They got some of their territory from Gondor, but they were never part of the kingdom of Gondor. Also, apparently not all of Rohan is former Gondor territory. From Tolkien Gateway: "In the 2000s, [...] the Éothéod moved from the valleys of Anduin to the north west of Mirkwood, clearing out what remained of the recently defeated witch kingdom of Angmar, east of the Misty Mountains. Later, in 2509, Cirion the Steward of Gondor sent summons to the Éothéod for aid [...] As a reward, Cirion [...] gave Eorl the area of Calenardhon, a province of Gondor"
    – Rand al'Thor
    Commented May 7, 2016 at 0:28
  • Ah, not debating that they were never part of the kingdom. However, do we know whether the lands of the Eotheod were called Rohan wherever they lived, I mean, dwelt? Or was Rohan in its form and location the newly founded, but separate, kingdom of the Rohirrim largely on former Gondor territory? Just saying ya might want to clarify the answer </nitpick>
    – Marakai
    Commented May 7, 2016 at 0:31
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    Also as @Wad Cheber shows in the map s/he copy-pastad, Rohan no longer extended up the vales of the Anduin. The Rohirrim moved the entire tribe, much like the Goths, to new lands. Their old lands belonged to others, from Silvan Elves to Beornings etc.
    – Marakai
    Commented May 7, 2016 at 0:33
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    @Marakai Thanks, I'll have a look through the Appendices tomorrow and see what more I can find about Rohan.
    – Rand al'Thor
    Commented May 7, 2016 at 0:34

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