I read about the existence of another universe for Batman where Bruce Wayne dies. To avenge his death, his father turns into Batman, and his mom turns into the Joker.

Which comics feature these stories?

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This version of Thomas Wayne was invented for the Flashpoint series, DC’s prelude to its “New 52” relaunch, in which an alternate universe is created when the Flash jiggles a whole lot (give or take; I’m not really a DC guy).

I think the Batman parts of the story are mainly featured in:

  • Flashpoint #1–5
  • Flashpoint: Batman Knight of Vengeance #1–3

(Although I’m pretty much just going by Wikipedia’s Flashpoint article).

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    an alternate universe is created when the Flash jiggles a whole lot. I hope that's exactly how they pitched the idea to the editors.
    – Daft
    Mar 18, 2015 at 10:05
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    @Daft: me too. It wouldn’t be the craziest idea ever in comics. Mar 18, 2015 at 10:08
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    It certainly wouldn't be the most unusual thing that has happened because of vibrating molecules...
    – Zibbobz
    Mar 18, 2015 at 13:07

Flashpoint: where Bruce dies, inspiring Thomas Wayne to be a vigilante and his mother Martha loses her sanity and becomes the Joker

Earth3(new 52): Thomas Wayne Jr. (older brother) and Alfred kill whole family, he later becomes Owlman

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